<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Tapani</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please look closely, both requests have titles and descriptions and agendas are not needed for meeting requests and can be requested at a later stage. I have worked on them and have submitted meeting requests which were praised for being complete., if you don't submit these I will submit as NCUC meetings. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I have not seen even titles or descriptions, let alone agendas<br>
for the multitude of sessions proposed. I won't request meetings<br>
for NCSG without without descriptive title and proper description.<br>
I don't want to request meetings just as placeholders - every<br>
meeting needs to have a definite purpose. Asking for too much<br>
will make things difficult for schedule makers and they won't<br>
reward us for that.<br>
<br>
I don't really see the need for all that many meetings, but<br>
I can make the requests *if* I get good titles and descriptions -<br>
I won't make them up myself.<br>
<br>
Note also that we may not get all we ask and may not get the specific<br>
timeslots we ask for - sessions with flexibility in that regard are<br>
more likely to be accepted.<br>
<br>
Also, I'd rather not have any lunch meetings at all if it can be<br>
helped.<br>
<br>
I plan to request PC meeting with this kind of spec:<br>
<br>
"NCSG Policy Committee meeting, 90 minutes, before Council meeting, no<br>
overlap with any GNSO sessions or PDP WGs, if possible no overlap<br>
with Cross-Community discussions."<br>
<br>
I may not even bother suggesting any specific timeslot as it's<br>
likely to be ignored anyway - if they can come up with any time<br>
that fits those constraints it should be fine.<br>
<br>
In addition I'll request NCSG EC and NCSG FC meetings (with<br>
less restrictive overlap constraints).<br>
<br>
For anything else I'll wait for titles & descriptions and<br>
timeslot constraints. Remember, deadline is tonight.<br>
<br>
Tapani<br>
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On Apr 25 18:00, farzaneh badii (<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> Since I have a lot of time, I have written the NCSG meeting requests for<br>
> Tapani's consideration to submit to Terri tomorrow. NCUC will participate<br>
> in all of the NCSG meetings but we might have a couple of informal meetings<br>
> separate from NCSG, I will ask for nonconflicting meetings.<br>
><br>
> Note that I have asked for all the meetings to be public and in the email<br>
> to Terri we should be clear that we want meetings for all 4 days and they<br>
> are not just for one day.<br>
><br>
> Best<br>
><br>
> Farzaneh<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > + 1<br>
> ><br>
> > On 25/04/2017 21:35, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Martin, I think these can be NCSG meetings which include both NCUC and<br>
> > NPOC. we should say in the description of the meeting that NCSG, as well as<br>
> > its constituencies, will hold these meetings but strictly talk about policy<br>
> > and what at the NCSG level we are working on. Based on each day GNSO<br>
> > program I think we could brief the attendees on the issues and our<br>
> > strategies to tackle the issue and also brief them on how we come up with<br>
> > policies.<br>
> ><br>
> > Farzaneh<br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Maybe NPOC can pitch in the outreach session as well, Poncelet can maybe<br>
> >> bring that idea back if we decide to merge NCSG session with NCUC, after<br>
> >> all they share some common audience.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Martin<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I support this approach - thanks!<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 25/04/2017 21:04, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi Kathy, all,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Actually it might make more sense to have NCSG meetings and not have<br>
> >> separate NCUC meetings. Because from the schedule I see, we cannot possibly<br>
> >> have meetings that do not conflict.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I think Tapani wanted the slots for Outreach policy practice in the<br>
> >> morning. which starts at 8.00 AM. If we can have 1 hour of those every day<br>
> >> and prepare people for the rest of the day that would be good. We might<br>
> >> have to just do 30 minutes lunch breaks (as instructed by the planning<br>
> >> team) to either strategize for the afternoon or meet with other groups.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I talked to EC members and they don't mind merging with NCSG. I might<br>
> >> reserve a 30 minutes lunch break for an informal meeting with some of the<br>
> >> board memebers but other than that I think we will be ok if NCSG can submit<br>
> >> :<br>
> >><br>
> >> One hour morning sessions (outreach and policy strategy)<br>
> >><br>
> >> 30 minutes during lunch breaks<br>
> >><br>
> >> If Tapani and the rest agree with that I will not ask for separate time<br>
> >> slots for NCUC.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Farzaneh<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> Observer too to Farzi's important suggestion -- with follow-up.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Quick thought that we might want to have a longer NCUC/NCSG prep meeting<br>
> >>> (for all NCSG attendees) early on in the meeting. It would be good to have<br>
> >>> an arc of all the issues in Jo'burg we should be thinking about -- and give<br>
> >>> people some time to think, research and read for a day before jumping into<br>
> >>> a WG discussion.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> - So 30 minute AM meetings for the daily briefing<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> - Occasional lunch sessions, including one with Board members<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> - An initial hour meeting at the very start (Monday AM?) to provide an<br>
> >>> arc of the issues we need to work on together in this meeting.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Best, Kathy<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On 4/25/2017 2:19 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Hello PC<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Observer here: for NCUC, not to make a very busy schedule<br>
> >>> unnecessarily busier, I will send requests for 30 minutes morning sessions<br>
> >>> and 45 minutes lunch break sessions. Since I will not be there I would like<br>
> >>> some of the NCUC members on NCSG PC members to lead the discussions and<br>
> >>> prepare our members for each day. We might also arrange a 45 minutes board<br>
> >>> meeting for NCUC during a lunch break.Please keep this in mind before<br>
> >>> submitting your requests, we don't want to have schedule conflicts with<br>
> >>> NCSG. If you want to also have similar half an hour morning sessions on<br>
> >>> policy strategy and outreach, let me know perhaps just joining NCSG meeting<br>
> >>> in the morning is wiser.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Farzaneh<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <<br>
> >>> <a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>> I'm fine with an extra PC session - at least we can ask.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Could somebody come up with a title and description for it?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Deadline is tomorrow, and I'll be traveling most of the day,<br>
> >>>> like today (now in train) - I'll finalize this tomorrow evening.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Tapani<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On Apr 25 17:59, Rafik Dammak (<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> > Hi Ayden,<br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> > yes, we can do that. It is at the end a policy forum so discussing the<br>
> >>>> > scheduled topics and sessions, and planning response to public<br>
> >>>> comments and<br>
> >>>> > positions makes sense.<br>
> >>>> > I assume that should be on the last day so can we have it as kind of<br>
> >>>> > wrap-up session.<br>
> >>>> > Best,<br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> > Rafik<br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> > 2017-04-25 17:21 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>:<br>
> >>>> ><br>
> >>>> > > Resending this, as the PC list dropped off inadvertently.<br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > - Ayden<br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > -------- Original Message --------<br>
> >>>> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Sessions in Johannesburg?<br>
> >>>> > > Local Time: 25 April 2017 9:20 AM<br>
> >>>> > > UTC Time: 25 April 2017 08:20<br>
> >>>> > > From: <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br>
> >>>> > > To: Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > Hi,<br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > While I am open to meeting with other groups if time permits, I am<br>
> >>>> > > wondering if it might be more useful having two PC meetings --- one<br>
> >>>> of<br>
> >>>> > > which could be solely for discussing upcoming public comments,<br>
> >>>> allocating<br>
> >>>> > > them, and formulating our positions?<br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > Best wishes,<br>
> >>>> > ><br>
> >>>> > > Ayden<br>
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> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
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