[NCSG-PC] Fwd: CSG Position on Board Seat 14

Wed Apr 26 16:57:50 EEST 2017

Hello Tapani,

As time is running out, I concur with your suggestion.  +1

Poncelet

On 26 April 2017 at 13:54, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
wrote:

> Yeah we should've had a proper process with discussion
> and all, but time is running out - deadline is 3 May.
>
> Suggestion:
>
> Let's have a vote with Matt and Markus and NotA on ballot,
> NCPH councillors (CSG, NCSG & NCA) voting, starting ASAP,
> vote to end by 2 May, 8 votes required for election.
>
> Any objections if I propose that to CSG?
>
> As to your question: CSG councillors vote as per their constituencies'
> decisions, and you can see those positions in Greg's mail I forwarded.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Apr 26 08:45, William Drake (wjdrake at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Here’s another observer who thinks such things should be done through a
> proper process entailing a) internal discussion and then b) vote.
> >
> > Question: do CSG Councilors just do whatever they like on this like us
> or are their positions agreed within their respective constituencies?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 00:39, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rafik
> > >
> > > Observer speaking,  but wanted to revive this thread. I agree with you
> that we should go to formal vote and include the NCA.
> > >
> > > Farzaneh
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > with the response from CSG about their nomination, we should move
> forward in this process:
> > > - we agreed previously to nominate Mathew and Markus as candidates
> from NCSG. I think we can confirm that and send the names to CSG.
> > > - we have to agree on the process for this time: running. I think we
> rejected before any kind of negotiation to agree on candidate and we
> insisted on having a vote anyway.
> > >
> > > copying here what was suggested from Greg:
> > >
> > > "1.  If it's possible for the NCSG to come up with a unified view on
> this topic, and if that view is the same as CSG, Matthew could be nominated
> by acclamation, without the need for a vote or a call.
> > > 2.  If that's not possible, then we can do either:
> > > (a) a call to either (i) see if a nomination can be resolved on the
> call, or (ii) to resolve the process from this point forward.
> > > (b) an election, but then we need to decide who is voting, and under
> what terms.
> > > "
> > > I don't see any harm to have a call but I think we should go to formal
> vote regardless of that and we need to include Julf as NCA to NCPH.
> > > agreeing on a long-term process seems unattainable goal but we still
> have to try to make it.
> > >
> > > comments and suggestions are welcome.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Rafik
> > >
> > > 2017-04-25 2:25 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>:
> > > Congratulations, Matthew!
> > >
> > > ----- Forwarded message from Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> -----
> > >
> > > Subject: CSG Position on Board Seat 14
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:38:53 -0400
> > > From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:
> gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
> > > To: Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org <mailto:
> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>>, "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:
> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:
> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > > Cc: "Wilson, Christopher" <cwilson at 21cf.com <mailto:cwilson at 21cf.com>>,
> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-
> online.de>>
> > >
> > > Dear Tapani and Rafik,
> > >
> > > The IPC, BC, and ISPCP have each deliberated regarding the current
> > > candidates for the  NCPH-nominated Board seat.  The groups have
> conferred
> > > and arrived at a common position.  Rather than nominating a candidate
> > > chosen by (and possibly from) the CSG at this time, or supporting the
> > > incumbent, the CSG constituencies choose to support Matthew Shears.
> > >
> > > We believe there can be great value in nominating from within the
> > > community. Matthew's efforts and contributions during the transition
> were
> > > noticed by many in the CSG community.  Of course, there should be no
> > > requirement that the nominee be from the community.  However, the
> level of
> > > engagement with and understanding of the community that Matt brings
> will be
> > > much welcomed.  We look forward to supporting Matt in his candidacy
> and on
> > > the Board, and hope this sets a new paradigm for the NCPH seat.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Greg Shatan
> > > on behalf of the CSG
> > >
> > >
> > > *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:(917)%20816-6428>
> > > S: gsshatan
> > > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:(646)%20845-9428>
> > > gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> > >
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