[NCSG-PC] CSG Position on Board Seat 14

[William Drake]

Our dear friend NOTA!  Now which interpretation of this are we following…:-)

BD

> On Apr 26, 2017, at 15:54, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> 
> Yeah we should've had a proper process with discussion
> and all, but time is running out - deadline is 3 May.
> 
> Suggestion:
> 
> Let's have a vote with Matt and Markus and NotA on ballot,
> NCPH councillors (CSG, NCSG & NCA) voting, starting ASAP,
> vote to end by 2 May, 8 votes required for election.
> 
> Any objections if I propose that to CSG?
> 
> As to your question: CSG councillors vote as per their constituencies'
> decisions, and you can see those positions in Greg's mail I forwarded.
> 
> Tapani
> 
> On Apr 26 08:45, William Drake (wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>) wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Here’s another observer who thinks such things should be done through a proper process entailing a) internal discussion and then b) vote. 
>> 
>> Question: do CSG Councilors just do whatever they like on this like us or are their positions agreed within their respective constituencies?  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 00:39, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Rafik
>>> 
>>> Observer speaking,  but wanted to revive this thread. I agree with you that we should go to formal vote and include the NCA. 
>>> 
>>> Farzaneh
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> with the response from CSG about their nomination, we should move forward in this process:
>>> - we agreed previously to nominate Mathew and Markus as candidates from NCSG. I think we can confirm that and send the names to CSG.
>>> - we have to agree on the process for this time: running. I think we rejected before any kind of negotiation to agree on candidate and we insisted on having a vote anyway. 
>>> 
>>> copying here what was suggested from Greg:
>>> 
>>> "1.  If it's possible for the NCSG to come up with a unified view on this topic, and if that view is the same as CSG, Matthew could be nominated by acclamation, without the need for a vote or a call.
>>> 2.  If that's not possible, then we can do either:
>>> (a) a call to either (i) see if a nomination can be resolved on the call, or (ii) to resolve the process from this point forward.
>>> (b) an election, but then we need to decide who is voting, and under what terms.
>>> "
>>> I don't see any harm to have a call but I think we should go to formal vote regardless of that and we need to include Julf as NCA to NCPH. 
>>> agreeing on a long-term process seems unattainable goal but we still have to try to make it. 
>>> 
>>> comments and suggestions are welcome.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Rafik
>>> 
>>> 2017-04-25 2:25 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>>:
>>> Congratulations, Matthew!
>>> 
>>> ----- Forwarded message from Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>> -----
>>> 
>>> Subject: CSG Position on Board Seat 14
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:38:53 -0400
>>> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>>
>>> To: Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>>>, "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>>
>>> Cc: "Wilson, Christopher" <cwilson at 21cf.com <mailto:cwilson at 21cf.com> <mailto:cwilson at 21cf.com <mailto:cwilson at 21cf.com>>>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>>
>>> 
>>> Dear Tapani and Rafik,
>>> 
>>> The IPC, BC, and ISPCP have each deliberated regarding the current
>>> candidates for the  NCPH-nominated Board seat.  The groups have conferred
>>> and arrived at a common position.  Rather than nominating a candidate
>>> chosen by (and possibly from) the CSG at this time, or supporting the
>>> incumbent, the CSG constituencies choose to support Matthew Shears.
>>> 
>>> We believe there can be great value in nominating from within the
>>> community. Matthew's efforts and contributions during the transition were
>>> noticed by many in the CSG community.  Of course, there should be no
>>> requirement that the nominee be from the community.  However, the level of
>>> engagement with and understanding of the community that Matt brings will be
>>> much welcomed.  We look forward to supporting Matt in his candidacy and on
>>> the Board, and hope this sets a new paradigm for the NCPH seat.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Greg Shatan
>>> on behalf of the CSG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:(917)%20816-6428>
>>> S: gsshatan
>>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:(646)%20845-9428>
>>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>>> 
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