[NCSG-PC] Fwd: CSG Position on Board Seat 14

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Yeah we should've had a proper process with discussion
and all, but time is running out - deadline is 3 May.

Suggestion:

Let's have a vote with Matt and Markus and NotA on ballot,
NCPH councillors (CSG, NCSG & NCA) voting, starting ASAP,
vote to end by 2 May, 8 votes required for election.

Any objections if I propose that to CSG?

As to your question: CSG councillors vote as per their constituencies'
decisions, and you can see those positions in Greg's mail I forwarded.

Tapani

On Apr 26 08:45, William Drake (wjdrake at gmail.com) wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Here’s another observer who thinks such things should be done through a proper process entailing a) internal discussion and then b) vote. 
> 
> Question: do CSG Councilors just do whatever they like on this like us or are their positions agreed within their respective constituencies?  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bill
> 
> > On Apr 26, 2017, at 00:39, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Rafik
> > 
> > Observer speaking,  but wanted to revive this thread. I agree with you that we should go to formal vote and include the NCA. 
> > 
> > Farzaneh
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > with the response from CSG about their nomination, we should move forward in this process:
> > - we agreed previously to nominate Mathew and Markus as candidates from NCSG. I think we can confirm that and send the names to CSG.
> > - we have to agree on the process for this time: running. I think we rejected before any kind of negotiation to agree on candidate and we insisted on having a vote anyway. 
> > 
> > copying here what was suggested from Greg:
> > 
> > "1.  If it's possible for the NCSG to come up with a unified view on this topic, and if that view is the same as CSG, Matthew could be nominated by acclamation, without the need for a vote or a call.
> > 2.  If that's not possible, then we can do either:
> > (a) a call to either (i) see if a nomination can be resolved on the call, or (ii) to resolve the process from this point forward.
> > (b) an election, but then we need to decide who is voting, and under what terms.
> > "
> > I don't see any harm to have a call but I think we should go to formal vote regardless of that and we need to include Julf as NCA to NCPH. 
> > agreeing on a long-term process seems unattainable goal but we still have to try to make it. 
> > 
> > comments and suggestions are welcome.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2017-04-25 2:25 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>>:
> > Congratulations, Matthew!
> > 
> > ----- Forwarded message from Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> -----
> > 
> > Subject: CSG Position on Board Seat 14
> > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:38:53 -0400
> > From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
> > To: Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>>, "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Cc: "Wilson, Christopher" <cwilson at 21cf.com <mailto:cwilson at 21cf.com>>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>
> > 
> > Dear Tapani and Rafik,
> > 
> > The IPC, BC, and ISPCP have each deliberated regarding the current
> > candidates for the  NCPH-nominated Board seat.  The groups have conferred
> > and arrived at a common position.  Rather than nominating a candidate
> > chosen by (and possibly from) the CSG at this time, or supporting the
> > incumbent, the CSG constituencies choose to support Matthew Shears.
> > 
> > We believe there can be great value in nominating from within the
> > community. Matthew's efforts and contributions during the transition were
> > noticed by many in the CSG community.  Of course, there should be no
> > requirement that the nominee be from the community.  However, the level of
> > engagement with and understanding of the community that Matt brings will be
> > much welcomed.  We look forward to supporting Matt in his candidacy and on
> > the Board, and hope this sets a new paradigm for the NCPH seat.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Greg Shatan
> > on behalf of the CSG
> > 
> > 
> > *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:(917)%20816-6428>
> > S: gsshatan
> > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:(646)%20845-9428>
> > gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> > 
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
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Tapani Tarvainen