[PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

Wendy Seltzer wendy
Fri Nov 18 23:35:10 EET 2016


On 11/18/2016 04:16 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> How do we feel about this, gang?  I will see if I can dig up the
> original document and forward, notice where it is coming from....

I suggest opposing at least the limited selection criteria for
participation:

"Requesting that the SO/AC leadership select (following the new Bylaws)
a small group of review team members that have either participated in,
or tracked closely, the 1 st WHOIS Review Team?s Recommendation."

Limited overlap with other efforts may be appropriate, but "we go back
to our friends and ask them how they think they did" is not.

--Wendy


> 
> Stephanie
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:     [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> Date:     Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:13:13 +0000
> From:     James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
> To:     GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Council colleagues ?
> 
> See message below, and attached document from Margie.  I know some
> (Susan?) have raised concerns with the draft Limited Scope for RDS
> Review, but do we think it is possible for us to gather and submit our
> feedback by 1 DEC?
> 
> Thanks?
> 
> J.
> 
> *From: *Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 19:55
> 
> *Subject: *RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I understand from conversations in Hyderabad that you may need
> additional time to provide feedback from your SO/AC on the RDS Review
> Limited Scope Proposal.
> 
> May I suggest a December 1^st deadline for feedback?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Margie
> 
> _______
> 
> Margie Milam
> 
> Vice President
> 
> MSSI
> 
> ICANN
> 
> ________
> 
> *From:*Margie Milam
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:53 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
> Dear All-
> 
> Here is a clean version of the Limited Scope Proposal, noting the change
> below.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Margie
> 
> *From:*Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:28 PM
> *To:* Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>; Chris Disspain
> <chris at disspain.uk>
> *Cc:* Oscar A. Robles-Garay <oscar at lacnic.net>; Thomas Schneider
> <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>; Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>;
> James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net; Patrik
> F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se>; tsinha at umd.edu; bverd at verisign.com;
> bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au; cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org;
> erika at erikamann.com; markus.kummer at board.icann.org;
> steve.crocker at board.icann.org; rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org;
> Rinalia Abdul Rahim (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>; Goran Marby
> <goran.marby at icann.org>; Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>; Cyrus
> Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org>; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>;
> Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>; Samantha Eisner
> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>; Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org>;
> Pamela Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org>; Karen Mulberry
> <karen.mulberry at icann.org>; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
> For those trying to understand the proposal, note that there is an
> extraneous "not" in the 4th sub-bullet of Suggested Approach. It should
> read "... and to the extent that it is found to be insufficient or
> inaccurate...". Or alternately, it could read "... and to the extent
> that it is found to not be sufficient or accurate...".
> 
> Alan
> 
> At 02/11/2016 05:00 AM, Margie Milam wrote:
> 
> 
>    Hi Chris & All-
> 
>    It seems the next step would be to determine the level of consensus
>    to this draft proposal among the SO/AC leaders. Please kindly use
>    the attached document, discuss it with your SO/AC, and reply by
>    November 9^th if there are any objections to moving forward with
>    this proposal.
> 
>    All the best,
> 
>    Margie Milam
> 
>    *From:* Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk
>    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:02 PM
>    *Subject:* Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
>    Sorry for not being clear. I mean what do we now need to do so we
>    start to take the next steps?
> 
> 
> 
>    Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
>    Chris
> 
>    On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
> 
>    Hi Chris-
> 
>    The next steps are listed in the Proposal:
> 
>    ? Circulate proposal to SO/AC leadership to socialize with their
>    respective SO/ACs
> 
>    ? ; Discuss with Community in Hyderabad at the WHOIS High Interest
>    Topic Session
> 
>    ? SO/AC leadership to issue a public statement or a letter to ICANN
>    CEO and Board Chair that explains why limited scope is appropriate
>    and articulates that they have broad support of the ICANN community
> 
>    ? Call for Volunteers to note limited scope & unique expertise sought
> 
>    ? Reach out to the previous Review Team members and members of the
>    Expert Working Group on Registration Directory Services,  and
>    encourage them to consider applying for the narrow scoped RDS Review
>    Team
> 
>    ? Propose a Charter for the RDS Review Team to adopt that tracks the
>    limited Scope
> 
>    All the best,
> 
>    Margie
> 
>    From: Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk]
> 
>    Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:55 PM
> 
>    To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >
> 
>    Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>    <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>    <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; James M. Bladel
>    <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; louie at louie.net
>    <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se
>    <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>    bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>    bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>    cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>    steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>    rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Jamie
>    Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >;
>    Cyrus Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org>
>     >; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
>    <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>; Theresa Swinehart
>    <theresa.swinehart at icann.org <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>;
>    Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
>    <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>; Erika Randall
>    <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela
>    Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >;
>    Karen Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org
>    <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >; Marika Konings
>    <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
> 
>    Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
>    OK??.
> 
>    What are our next steps please Margie?
> 
>    Cheers,
> 
>    Chris
> 
>    On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:19, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
> 
>    Dear All-
> 
>    Please see the attached document, which includes Alan???s revision.
> 
>    Thanks,
> 
>    Margie
> 
>    From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>]
> 
>    Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:42 AM
> 
>    To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >; chris at disspain.id.au
>    <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>    <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>    <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; jbladel at godaddy.com
>    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net
>    <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F????ltstr????m <patrik at frobbit.se
>    <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se> >;tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>    bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>    bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>    cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>    steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>    rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Chris
>    Disspain <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
> 
>    Cc: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>    <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus Namazi
>    <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >; David
>    Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>    Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>    <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>    <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>    Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>    <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>    <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>    Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org>
>     >; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
>    <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
> 
>    Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
> 
>    One more thought. It are some items which were recommended but were
>    rejected (or more likely transformed into some other form), so I
>    would add one more option to the 2nd bullet. Specifically:
> 
>    o Requesting the ICANN organization to do a "self-assessment"
>    reporting on a) the extent to which each recommendation was followed
>    and/or implemented; b) the effectiveness in addressing the issues
>    identified by the First WHOIS Review Team; and c) the need for
>    additional implementation.
> 
>    Alan
> 
>    At 28/10/2016 03:37 PM, Margie Milam wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    Dear All,
> 
>    Please find attached the draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS
>    Review. As I did not receive any suggested revisions, it is
>    unchanged from the document circulated earlier.
> 
>    Safe travels & see you in India!
> 
>    Margie
> 
>    From: Margie Milam
> 
>    Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:03 PM
> 
>    To: 'chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>'
>    <chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>>; 'Oscar A.
>    Robles-Garay' <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; 'Thomas
>    Schneider' <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; 'Katrina Sataki'
>    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; 'jbladel at godaddy.com
>    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>' <jbladel at godaddy.com
>    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; 'louie at louie.net
>    <mailto:louie at louie.net>' <louie at louie.net
>    <mailto:louie at louie.net>>; 'alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; 'Patrik F????ltstr????m'
>    <patrik at frobbit.se <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; 'tsinha at umd.edu
>    <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>' <tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>>;
>    'bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>' <bverd at verisign.com
>    <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>>; bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>    'cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>'
>    <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org> >;erika at erikamann.com
>    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; 'markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>'
>    <markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>>;
>    'steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>'
>    <steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>;
>    'rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>'
>    <rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; 'Chris
>    Disspain' <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
> 
>    Cc: 'Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>'
>    <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org> >;
>    Lauren Allison <lauren.allison at icann.org
>    <mailto:lauren.allison at icann.org> >; Jamie Hedlund
>    <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus
>    Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >;
>    David Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>    Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>    <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>    <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>    Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>    <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>    <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>    Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >
> 
>    Subject: RE: Request to SO/AC Leadership from Chris Disspain
> 
>    Dear All,
> 
>    I would like to provide you an update on the next steps for the
>    Registration Directory Services Review (WHOIS-2), following the Oct
>    13th telephone call:
> 
>    ????         As discussed, Alan Greenberg and I developed the
>    attached strawman proposal for a limited scope Registration
>    Directory Services Review.
> 
>    ???? Please kindly review the attached proposal, and provide any
>    initial comments by the close of business on Thursday Oct 27th, and
>    a revised version will be circulated on Friday Oct 28th.
> 
>    ????         Any additional comments on your SO/AC????s perspective
>    on this to topic can be shared at the High Interest Topic Session on
>    WHOIS in Hyderabad on Sat, November 5th
> 
>    ???? Also, please note we plan to publish the Call for Volunteers
>    for the RDS Review on Friday Oct 28th.
> 
>    Please let me know if you have any questions.
> 
>    Best Personal Regards,
> 
>    Margie
> 
>    _________
> 
>    Margie Milam
> 
>    Vice President-
> 
>    Multistakeholder Strategy &
> 
>    Strategic Initiatives
> 
>    _________
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