[PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin
Fri Nov 18 23:16:27 EET 2016


How do we feel about this, gang?  I will see if I can dig up the 
original document and forward, notice where it is coming from....

Stephanie

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Subject: 	[council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
Date: 	Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:13:13 +0000
From: 	James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
To: 	GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>



Council colleagues ?

See message below, and attached document from Margie.  I know some 
(Susan?) have raised concerns with the draft Limited Scope for RDS 
Review, but do we think it is possible for us to gather and submit our 
feedback by 1 DEC?

Thanks?

J.

*From: *Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>
*Date: *Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 19:55

*Subject: *RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

Dear All,

I understand from conversations in Hyderabad that you may need 
additional time to provide feedback from your SO/AC on the RDS Review 
Limited Scope Proposal.

May I suggest a December 1^st deadline for feedback?

All the best,

Margie

_______

Margie Milam

Vice President

MSSI

ICANN

________

*From:*Margie Milam
*Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:53 PM
*Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

Dear All-

Here is a clean version of the Limited Scope Proposal, noting the change 
below.

All the best,

Margie

*From:*Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:28 PM
*To:* Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>; Chris Disspain 
<chris at disspain.uk>
*Cc:* Oscar A. Robles-Garay <oscar at lacnic.net>; Thomas Schneider 
<Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>; Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>; 
James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net; Patrik 
F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se>; tsinha at umd.edu; bverd at verisign.com; 
bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au; cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org; 
erika at erikamann.com; markus.kummer at board.icann.org; 
steve.crocker at board.icann.org; rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org; 
Rinalia Abdul Rahim (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>; Goran Marby 
<goran.marby at icann.org>; Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>; Cyrus 
Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org>; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>; 
Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>; Samantha Eisner 
<Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>; Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org>; 
Pamela Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org>; Karen Mulberry 
<karen.mulberry at icann.org>; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
*Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

For those trying to understand the proposal, note that there is an 
extraneous "not" in the 4th sub-bullet of Suggested Approach. It should 
read "... and to the extent that it is found to be insufficient or 
inaccurate...". Or alternately, it could read "... and to the extent 
that it is found to not be sufficient or accurate...".

Alan

At 02/11/2016 05:00 AM, Margie Milam wrote:


    Hi Chris & All-

    It seems the next step would be to determine the level of consensus
    to this draft proposal among the SO/AC leaders. Please kindly use
    the attached document, discuss it with your SO/AC, and reply by
    November 9^th if there are any objections to moving forward with
    this proposal.

    All the best,

    Margie Milam

    *From:* Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:02 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

    Sorry for not being clear. I mean what do we now need to do so we
    start to take the next steps?



    Cheers,



    Chris

    On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:

    Hi Chris-

    The next steps are listed in the Proposal:

    ? Circulate proposal to SO/AC leadership to socialize with their
    respective SO/ACs

    ? ; Discuss with Community in Hyderabad at the WHOIS High Interest
    Topic Session

    ? SO/AC leadership to issue a public statement or a letter to ICANN
    CEO and Board Chair that explains why limited scope is appropriate
    and articulates that they have broad support of the ICANN community

    ? Call for Volunteers to note limited scope & unique expertise sought

    ? Reach out to the previous Review Team members and members of the
    Expert Working Group on Registration Directory Services,  and
    encourage them to consider applying for the narrow scoped RDS Review
    Team

    ? Propose a Charter for the RDS Review Team to adopt that tracks the
    limited Scope

    All the best,

    Margie

    From: Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk]

    Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:55 PM

    To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >

    Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
    <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
    <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; James M. Bladel
    <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; louie at louie.net
    <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se
    <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
    bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
    bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
    cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
    steve.crocker at board.icann.org
    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
    rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Jamie
    Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >;
    Cyrus Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org>
     >; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
    <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>; Theresa Swinehart
    <theresa.swinehart at icann.org <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>;
    Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
    <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>; Erika Randall
    <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela
    Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >;
    Karen Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org
    <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >; Marika Konings
    <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >

    Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

    OK??.

    What are our next steps please Margie?

    Cheers,

    Chris

    On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:19, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:

    Dear All-

    Please see the attached document, which includes Alan???s revision.

    Thanks,

    Margie

    From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>]

    Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:42 AM

    To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
    <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >; chris at disspain.id.au
    <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
    <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
    <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; jbladel at godaddy.com
    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net
    <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F????ltstr????m <patrik at frobbit.se
    <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se> >;tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
    bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
    bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
    cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
    steve.crocker at board.icann.org
    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
    rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Chris
    Disspain <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>

    Cc: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org
    <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus Namazi
    <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >; David
    Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
    Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
    <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
    <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
    Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
    <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
    <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
    Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org>
     >; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
    <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >

    Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

    One more thought. It are some items which were recommended but were
    rejected (or more likely transformed into some other form), so I
    would add one more option to the 2nd bullet. Specifically:

    o Requesting the ICANN organization to do a "self-assessment"
    reporting on a) the extent to which each recommendation was followed
    and/or implemented; b) the effectiveness in addressing the issues
    identified by the First WHOIS Review Team; and c) the need for
    additional implementation.

    Alan

    At 28/10/2016 03:37 PM, Margie Milam wrote:




    Dear All,

    Please find attached the draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS
    Review. As I did not receive any suggested revisions, it is
    unchanged from the document circulated earlier.

    Safe travels & see you in India!

    Margie

    From: Margie Milam

    Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:03 PM

    To: 'chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>'
    <chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>>; 'Oscar A.
    Robles-Garay' <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; 'Thomas
    Schneider' <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
    <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; 'Katrina Sataki'
    <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; 'jbladel at godaddy.com
    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>' <jbladel at godaddy.com
    <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; 'louie at louie.net
    <mailto:louie at louie.net>' <louie at louie.net
    <mailto:louie at louie.net>>; 'alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
    <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; 'Patrik F????ltstr????m'
    <patrik at frobbit.se <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; 'tsinha at umd.edu
    <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>' <tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>>;
    'bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>' <bverd at verisign.com
    <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>>; bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
    <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
    'cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>'
    <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
    <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org> >;erika at erikamann.com
    <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; 'markus.kummer at board.icann.org
    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>'
    <markus.kummer at board.icann.org
    <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>>;
    'steve.crocker at board.icann.org
    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>'
    <steve.crocker at board.icann.org
    <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>;
    'rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>'
    <rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
    (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
    <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
    <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; 'Chris
    Disspain' <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>

    Cc: 'Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>'
    <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org> >;
    Lauren Allison <lauren.allison at icann.org
    <mailto:lauren.allison at icann.org> >; Jamie Hedlund
    <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus
    Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >;
    David Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
    Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
    <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
    <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
    Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
    <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
    <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
    Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >

    Subject: RE: Request to SO/AC Leadership from Chris Disspain

    Dear All,

    I would like to provide you an update on the next steps for the
    Registration Directory Services Review (WHOIS-2), following the Oct
    13th telephone call:

    ????         As discussed, Alan Greenberg and I developed the
    attached strawman proposal for a limited scope Registration
    Directory Services Review.

    ???? Please kindly review the attached proposal, and provide any
    initial comments by the close of business on Thursday Oct 27th, and
    a revised version will be circulated on Friday Oct 28th.

    ????         Any additional comments on your SO/AC????s perspective
    on this to topic can be shared at the High Interest Topic Session on
    WHOIS in Hyderabad on Sat, November 5th

    ???? Also, please note we plan to publish the Call for Volunteers
    for the RDS Review on Friday Oct 28th.

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Best Personal Regards,

    Margie

    _________

    Margie Milam

    Vice President-

    Multistakeholder Strategy &

    Strategic Initiatives

    _________

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