[PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin
Fri Nov 18 23:45:31 EET 2016
I absolutely agree, that was number one for me.
SP
On 2016-11-18 16:35, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 04:16 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> How do we feel about this, gang? I will see if I can dig up the
>> original document and forward, notice where it is coming from....
> I suggest opposing at least the limited selection criteria for
> participation:
>
> "Requesting that the SO/AC leadership select (following the new Bylaws)
> a small group of review team members that have either participated in,
> or tracked closely, the 1 st WHOIS Review Team?s Recommendation."
>
> Limited overlap with other efforts may be appropriate, but "we go back
> to our friends and ask them how they think they did" is not.
>
> --Wendy
>
>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:13:13 +0000
>> From: James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>> To: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Council colleagues ?
>>
>> See message below, and attached document from Margie. I know some
>> (Susan?) have raised concerns with the draft Limited Scope for RDS
>> Review, but do we think it is possible for us to gather and submit our
>> feedback by 1 DEC?
>>
>> Thanks?
>>
>> J.
>>
>> *From: *Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 19:55
>>
>> *Subject: *RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I understand from conversations in Hyderabad that you may need
>> additional time to provide feedback from your SO/AC on the RDS Review
>> Limited Scope Proposal.
>>
>> May I suggest a December 1^st deadline for feedback?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> _______
>>
>> Margie Milam
>>
>> Vice President
>>
>> MSSI
>>
>> ICANN
>>
>> ________
>>
>> *From:*Margie Milam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:53 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> Dear All-
>>
>> Here is a clean version of the Limited Scope Proposal, noting the change
>> below.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> *From:*Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:28 PM
>> *To:* Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>; Chris Disspain
>> <chris at disspain.uk>
>> *Cc:* Oscar A. Robles-Garay <oscar at lacnic.net>; Thomas Schneider
>> <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>; Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>;
>> James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net; Patrik
>> F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se>; tsinha at umd.edu; bverd at verisign.com;
>> bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au; cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org;
>> erika at erikamann.com; markus.kummer at board.icann.org;
>> steve.crocker at board.icann.org; rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org;
>> Rinalia Abdul Rahim (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>; Goran Marby
>> <goran.marby at icann.org>; Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>; Cyrus
>> Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org>; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>;
>> Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>; Samantha Eisner
>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>; Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org>;
>> Pamela Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org>; Karen Mulberry
>> <karen.mulberry at icann.org>; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> For those trying to understand the proposal, note that there is an
>> extraneous "not" in the 4th sub-bullet of Suggested Approach. It should
>> read "... and to the extent that it is found to be insufficient or
>> inaccurate...". Or alternately, it could read "... and to the extent
>> that it is found to not be sufficient or accurate...".
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 02/11/2016 05:00 AM, Margie Milam wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Chris & All-
>>
>> It seems the next step would be to determine the level of consensus
>> to this draft proposal among the SO/AC leaders. Please kindly use
>> the attached document, discuss it with your SO/AC, and reply by
>> November 9^th if there are any objections to moving forward with
>> this proposal.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie Milam
>>
>> *From:* Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:02 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> Sorry for not being clear. I mean what do we now need to do so we
>> start to take the next steps?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>> <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris-
>>
>> The next steps are listed in the Proposal:
>>
>> ? Circulate proposal to SO/AC leadership to socialize with their
>> respective SO/ACs
>>
>> ? ; Discuss with Community in Hyderabad at the WHOIS High Interest
>> Topic Session
>>
>> ? SO/AC leadership to issue a public statement or a letter to ICANN
>> CEO and Board Chair that explains why limited scope is appropriate
>> and articulates that they have broad support of the ICANN community
>>
>> ? Call for Volunteers to note limited scope & unique expertise sought
>>
>> ? Reach out to the previous Review Team members and members of the
>> Expert Working Group on Registration Directory Services, and
>> encourage them to consider applying for the narrow scoped RDS Review
>> Team
>>
>> ? Propose a Charter for the RDS Review Team to adopt that tracks the
>> limited Scope
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> From: Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk]
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:55 PM
>>
>> To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>> <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >
>>
>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>> <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>> <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>> <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>> <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; James M. Bladel
>> <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; louie at louie.net
>> <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se
>> <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>> bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>> bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>> <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>> cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>> <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>> steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>> rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>> (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>> <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Jamie
>> Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >;
>> Cyrus Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org>
>> >; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
>> <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>; Theresa Swinehart
>> <theresa.swinehart at icann.org <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>;
>> Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
>> <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>; Erika Randall
>> <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela
>> Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >;
>> Karen Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org
>> <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >; Marika Konings
>> <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> OK??.
>>
>> What are our next steps please Margie?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:19, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>> <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
>>
>> Dear All-
>>
>> Please see the attached document, which includes Alan???s revision.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>]
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:42 AM
>>
>> To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>> <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >; chris at disspain.id.au
>> <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>> <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>> <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>> <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>> <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; jbladel at godaddy.com
>> <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net
>> <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F????ltstr????m <patrik at frobbit.se
>> <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se> >;tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>> bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>> bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>> <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>> cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>> <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>> steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>> rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>> (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>> <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Chris
>> Disspain <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
>>
>> Cc: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus Namazi
>> <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >; David
>> Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>> Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>> <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>> Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>> <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>> <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>> Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org>
>> >; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> One more thought. It are some items which were recommended but were
>> rejected (or more likely transformed into some other form), so I
>> would add one more option to the 2nd bullet. Specifically:
>>
>> o Requesting the ICANN organization to do a "self-assessment"
>> reporting on a) the extent to which each recommendation was followed
>> and/or implemented; b) the effectiveness in addressing the issues
>> identified by the First WHOIS Review Team; and c) the need for
>> additional implementation.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 28/10/2016 03:37 PM, Margie Milam wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached the draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS
>> Review. As I did not receive any suggested revisions, it is
>> unchanged from the document circulated earlier.
>>
>> Safe travels & see you in India!
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> From: Margie Milam
>>
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:03 PM
>>
>> To: 'chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>'
>> <chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>>; 'Oscar A.
>> Robles-Garay' <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; 'Thomas
>> Schneider' <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>> <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; 'Katrina Sataki'
>> <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; 'jbladel at godaddy.com
>> <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>' <jbladel at godaddy.com
>> <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; 'louie at louie.net
>> <mailto:louie at louie.net>' <louie at louie.net
>> <mailto:louie at louie.net>>; 'alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; 'Patrik F????ltstr????m'
>> <patrik at frobbit.se <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; 'tsinha at umd.edu
>> <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>' <tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>>;
>> 'bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>' <bverd at verisign.com
>> <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>>; bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>> <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>> 'cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>'
>> <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org> >;erika at erikamann.com
>> <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; 'markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>'
>> <markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>>;
>> 'steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>'
>> <steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>;
>> 'rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>'
>> <rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>> (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>> <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; 'Chris
>> Disspain' <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
>>
>> Cc: 'Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>'
>> <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org> >;
>> Lauren Allison <lauren.allison at icann.org
>> <mailto:lauren.allison at icann.org> >; Jamie Hedlund
>> <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus
>> Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >;
>> David Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>> Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>> <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>> Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>> <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>> <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>> Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >
>>
>> Subject: RE: Request to SO/AC Leadership from Chris Disspain
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I would like to provide you an update on the next steps for the
>> Registration Directory Services Review (WHOIS-2), following the Oct
>> 13th telephone call:
>>
>> ???? As discussed, Alan Greenberg and I developed the
>> attached strawman proposal for a limited scope Registration
>> Directory Services Review.
>>
>> ???? Please kindly review the attached proposal, and provide any
>> initial comments by the close of business on Thursday Oct 27th, and
>> a revised version will be circulated on Friday Oct 28th.
>>
>> ???? Any additional comments on your SO/AC????s perspective
>> on this to topic can be shared at the High Interest Topic Session on
>> WHOIS in Hyderabad on Sat, November 5th
>>
>> ???? Also, please note we plan to publish the Call for Volunteers
>> for the RDS Review on Friday Oct 28th.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Best Personal Regards,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> _________
>>
>> Margie Milam
>>
>> Vice President-
>>
>> Multistakeholder Strategy &
>>
>> Strategic Initiatives
>>
>> _________
>>
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