[PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin
Fri Nov 18 23:45:31 EET 2016


I absolutely agree, that was number one for me.

SP


On 2016-11-18 16:35, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 04:16 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> How do we feel about this, gang?  I will see if I can dig up the
>> original document and forward, notice where it is coming from....
> I suggest opposing at least the limited selection criteria for
> participation:
>
> "Requesting that the SO/AC leadership select (following the new Bylaws)
> a small group of review team members that have either participated in,
> or tracked closely, the 1 st WHOIS Review Team?s Recommendation."
>
> Limited overlap with other efforts may be appropriate, but "we go back
> to our friends and ask them how they think they did" is not.
>
> --Wendy
>
>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:     [council] FW: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>> Date:     Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:13:13 +0000
>> From:     James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>> To:     GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Council colleagues ?
>>
>> See message below, and attached document from Margie.  I know some
>> (Susan?) have raised concerns with the draft Limited Scope for RDS
>> Review, but do we think it is possible for us to gather and submit our
>> feedback by 1 DEC?
>>
>> Thanks?
>>
>> J.
>>
>> *From: *Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 19:55
>>
>> *Subject: *RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I understand from conversations in Hyderabad that you may need
>> additional time to provide feedback from your SO/AC on the RDS Review
>> Limited Scope Proposal.
>>
>> May I suggest a December 1^st deadline for feedback?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> _______
>>
>> Margie Milam
>>
>> Vice President
>>
>> MSSI
>>
>> ICANN
>>
>> ________
>>
>> *From:*Margie Milam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:53 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> Dear All-
>>
>> Here is a clean version of the Limited Scope Proposal, noting the change
>> below.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Margie
>>
>> *From:*Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:28 PM
>> *To:* Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org>; Chris Disspain
>> <chris at disspain.uk>
>> *Cc:* Oscar A. Robles-Garay <oscar at lacnic.net>; Thomas Schneider
>> <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>; Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>;
>> James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net; Patrik
>> F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se>; tsinha at umd.edu; bverd at verisign.com;
>> bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au; cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org;
>> erika at erikamann.com; markus.kummer at board.icann.org;
>> steve.crocker at board.icann.org; rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org;
>> Rinalia Abdul Rahim (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>; Goran Marby
>> <goran.marby at icann.org>; Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>; Cyrus
>> Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org>; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>;
>> Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>; Samantha Eisner
>> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>; Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org>;
>> Pamela Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org>; Karen Mulberry
>> <karen.mulberry at icann.org>; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>> For those trying to understand the proposal, note that there is an
>> extraneous "not" in the 4th sub-bullet of Suggested Approach. It should
>> read "... and to the extent that it is found to be insufficient or
>> inaccurate...". Or alternately, it could read "... and to the extent
>> that it is found to not be sufficient or accurate...".
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 02/11/2016 05:00 AM, Margie Milam wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hi Chris & All-
>>
>>     It seems the next step would be to determine the level of consensus
>>     to this draft proposal among the SO/AC leaders. Please kindly use
>>     the attached document, discuss it with your SO/AC, and reply by
>>     November 9^th if there are any objections to moving forward with
>>     this proposal.
>>
>>     All the best,
>>
>>     Margie Milam
>>
>>     *From:* Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:02 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>>     Sorry for not being clear. I mean what do we now need to do so we
>>     start to take the next steps?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Chris
>>
>>     On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>>     <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Chris-
>>
>>     The next steps are listed in the Proposal:
>>
>>     ? Circulate proposal to SO/AC leadership to socialize with their
>>     respective SO/ACs
>>
>>     ? ; Discuss with Community in Hyderabad at the WHOIS High Interest
>>     Topic Session
>>
>>     ? SO/AC leadership to issue a public statement or a letter to ICANN
>>     CEO and Board Chair that explains why limited scope is appropriate
>>     and articulates that they have broad support of the ICANN community
>>
>>     ? Call for Volunteers to note limited scope & unique expertise sought
>>
>>     ? Reach out to the previous Review Team members and members of the
>>     Expert Working Group on Registration Directory Services,  and
>>     encourage them to consider applying for the narrow scoped RDS Review
>>     Team
>>
>>     ? Propose a Charter for the RDS Review Team to adopt that tracks the
>>     limited Scope
>>
>>     All the best,
>>
>>     Margie
>>
>>     From: Chris Disspain [mailto:chris at disspain.uk]
>>
>>     Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:55 PM
>>
>>     To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>>     <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >
>>
>>     Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>     <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>>     <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>>     <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>>     <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>>     <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; James M. Bladel
>>     <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; louie at louie.net
>>     <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F??ltstr??m <patrik at frobbit.se
>>     <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>>     bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>>     bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>>     <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>>     cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>>     <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>>     steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>>     rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>>     (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>>     <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Jamie
>>     Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >;
>>     Cyrus Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org>
>>      >; David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
>>     <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>; Theresa Swinehart
>>     <theresa.swinehart at icann.org <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>;
>>     Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org
>>     <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>; Erika Randall
>>     <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela
>>     Smith <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >;
>>     Karen Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org
>>     <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >; Marika Konings
>>     <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
>>
>>     Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>>     OK??.
>>
>>     What are our next steps please Margie?
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Chris
>>
>>     On 2 Nov 2016, at 08:19, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>>     <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> > wrote:
>>
>>     Dear All-
>>
>>     Please see the attached document, which includes Alan???s revision.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Margie
>>
>>     From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>     <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>]
>>
>>     Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:42 AM
>>
>>     To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam at icann.org
>>     <mailto:Margie.Milam at icann.org> >; chris at disspain.id.au
>>     <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>; Oscar A. Robles-Garay
>>     <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; Thomas Schneider
>>     <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>>     <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; Katrina Sataki
>>     <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; jbladel at godaddy.com
>>     <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>; louie at louie.net
>>     <mailto:louie at louie.net>; Patrik F????ltstr????m <patrik at frobbit.se
>>     <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se> >;tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>;
>>     bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>;
>>     bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>>     <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>>     cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>; erika at erikamann.com
>>     <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>;
>>     steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>;
>>     rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>>     (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>>     <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; Chris
>>     Disspain <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
>>
>>     Cc: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>     <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus Namazi
>>     <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >; David
>>     Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>>     Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>>     <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>>     <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>>     Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>>     <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>>     <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>>     Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org>
>>      >; Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
>>     <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org> >
>>
>>     Subject: Re: Draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS Review
>>
>>     One more thought. It are some items which were recommended but were
>>     rejected (or more likely transformed into some other form), so I
>>     would add one more option to the 2nd bullet. Specifically:
>>
>>     o Requesting the ICANN organization to do a "self-assessment"
>>     reporting on a) the extent to which each recommendation was followed
>>     and/or implemented; b) the effectiveness in addressing the issues
>>     identified by the First WHOIS Review Team; and c) the need for
>>     additional implementation.
>>
>>     Alan
>>
>>     At 28/10/2016 03:37 PM, Margie Milam wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Dear All,
>>
>>     Please find attached the draft Proposal for a Limited Scope RDS
>>     Review. As I did not receive any suggested revisions, it is
>>     unchanged from the document circulated earlier.
>>
>>     Safe travels & see you in India!
>>
>>     Margie
>>
>>     From: Margie Milam
>>
>>     Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:03 PM
>>
>>     To: 'chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>'
>>     <chris at disspain.id.au <mailto:chris at disspain.id.au>>; 'Oscar A.
>>     Robles-Garay' <oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>>; 'Thomas
>>     Schneider' <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch
>>     <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>; 'Katrina Sataki'
>>     <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>; 'jbladel at godaddy.com
>>     <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>' <jbladel at godaddy.com
>>     <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>; 'louie at louie.net
>>     <mailto:louie at louie.net>' <louie at louie.net
>>     <mailto:louie at louie.net>>; 'alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>     <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>     <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >; 'Patrik F????ltstr????m'
>>     <patrik at frobbit.se <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>; 'tsinha at umd.edu
>>     <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>' <tsinha at umd.edu <mailto:tsinha at umd.edu>>;
>>     'bverd at verisign.com <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>' <bverd at verisign.com
>>     <mailto:bverd at verisign.com>>; bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
>>     <mailto:bruce.tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>;
>>     'cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>'
>>     <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org> >;erika at erikamann.com
>>     <mailto:erika at erikamann.com>; 'markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>'
>>     <markus.kummer at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:markus.kummer at board.icann.org>>;
>>     'steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>'
>>     <steve.crocker at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:steve.crocker at board.icann.org>>;
>>     'rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>'
>>     <rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at board.icann.org>>; Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>>     (GMAIL) <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>; Goran Marby
>>     <goran.marby at icann.org <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>; 'Chris
>>     Disspain' <chris at disspain.uk <mailto:chris at disspain.uk>>
>>
>>     Cc: 'Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org>'
>>     <Board-Ops-Team at icann.org <mailto:Board-Ops-Team at icann.org> >;
>>     Lauren Allison <lauren.allison at icann.org
>>     <mailto:lauren.allison at icann.org> >; Jamie Hedlund
>>     <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org> >; Cyrus
>>     Namazi <cyrus.namazi at icann.org <mailto:cyrus.namazi at icann.org> >;
>>     David Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>;
>>     Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org
>>     <mailto:theresa.swinehart at icann.org>>; Samantha Eisner
>>     <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>>;
>>     Erika Randall <erika.randall at icann.org
>>     <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org> >; Pamela Smith
>>     <pamela.smith at icann.org <mailto:pamela.smith at icann.org> >; Karen
>>     Mulberry <karen.mulberry at icann.org <mailto:karen.mulberry at icann.org> >
>>
>>     Subject: RE: Request to SO/AC Leadership from Chris Disspain
>>
>>     Dear All,
>>
>>     I would like to provide you an update on the next steps for the
>>     Registration Directory Services Review (WHOIS-2), following the Oct
>>     13th telephone call:
>>
>>     ????         As discussed, Alan Greenberg and I developed the
>>     attached strawman proposal for a limited scope Registration
>>     Directory Services Review.
>>
>>     ???? Please kindly review the attached proposal, and provide any
>>     initial comments by the close of business on Thursday Oct 27th, and
>>     a revised version will be circulated on Friday Oct 28th.
>>
>>     ????         Any additional comments on your SO/AC????s perspective
>>     on this to topic can be shared at the High Interest Topic Session on
>>     WHOIS in Hyderabad on Sat, November 5th
>>
>>     ???? Also, please note we plan to publish the Call for Volunteers
>>     for the RDS Review on Friday Oct 28th.
>>
>>     Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>>     Best Personal Regards,
>>
>>     Margie
>>
>>     _________
>>
>>     Margie Milam
>>
>>     Vice President-
>>
>>     Multistakeholder Strategy &
>>
>>     Strategic Initiatives
>>
>>     _________
>>
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