[PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for
Sam Lanfranco
lanfran
Thu Aug 6 17:25:32 EEST 2015
Avri,
I agree with rejecting the "totally unacceptable" but I don't see how a
vote on preferences
would fail to boot that candidate off the list. The top of the "don't
like" vote should be the
bottom of the "like vote", or am I missing something other than a chance
to whack a bad
candidate before going on to select a good one.
Sam
On 06/08/2015 7:09 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think the amendment is unfortunate as id does not really consider the
> proposal that was offered and the advantage of everyone first voicing
> the candidate that would be totally unacceptable - the elephant that is
> always in the room with us.
>
> But since we operate by rough consensus, my opposition should not be
> significant.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 06-Aug-15 04:25, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks,
>> so I can assume that we are ok with small amendment proposed by CSG?
>> looking to hear from other so I can respond to Steve.
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2015-07-26 6:10 GMT+09:00 Joy Liddicoat <joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz
>> <mailto:joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz>>:
>>
>> Hi ? I also agree
>>
>> Joy
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org
>> <mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org>] *On Behalf Of *Marilia Maciel
>> *Sent:* Friday, 24 July 2015 12:21 a.m.
>> *To:* Rafik Dammak
>> *Cc:* NCSG-Policy
>> *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair
>> election - just what we all have time for
>>
>>
>>
>> Also agree.
>>
>> Mar?lia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Rafik Dammak
>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> it sounds a fair request, CSG conducted such interviews for
>> candidates for previous elections.
>>
>>
>>
>> @everyone is there any objection or suggestion? we should respond
>> soon ,
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-07-19 22:55 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>
>> sounds reasonable to me...but I am perhaps not suffficiently
>> exercise on this issue.
>> cheers SP
>>
>> On 2015-07-19 9:21, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Also fine by me. Perhaps also formalise the option to interview
>> the candidate? If I recall correctly, they held a call with David
>> prior to agreeing to him as a VC. This is only a suggestion. It
>> may (or may not) come in handy at some point.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Fine by me.
>>
>> BD
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You will found below the comments from CSG to Avri
>> counter-proposal regarding VC chair process. they will accept it
>> and offering an amendment.
>> can you please review so we can move forward with this issue. the
>> VC chair election is coming soon.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>> Date: 2015-07-14 7:54 GMT+09:00
>> Subject: RE: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>> just what we all have time for
>> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>>
>> This was discussed by the CSG Executive Committee last week, and
>> we are prepared to accept the counter-proposal with one change.
>> We did not understand why the first round was structured as a
>> ?vote against round, i.e., a voting procedure where everyone votes
>> for the candidate they would like to see least in the role.? We
>> think the same objective could be achieved by a conventional
>> voting procedure, with the top two (or more in case of a tie) vote
>> getters proceeding to the second round.
>>
>>
>> With that change we are prepared to move toward setting a schedule
>> for the vice chair election (i.e., a deadline for nominations,
>> acceptances, and scheduling of the rounds). Please let me know if
>> NCSG will accept this relatively minor change so we can move to
>> the next step
>>
>>
>> The CSG Executive Committee also wished to convey that while we
>> are prepared to accept this approach for this year, our proposal
>> form last January remains on the table in order to provide a
>> permanent solution through rotation of nominations.
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to your response.
>>
>>
>> Steve Metalitz
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 10:55 PM
>> To: Metalitz, Steven
>> Subject: Re: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>> just what we all have time for
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>> thanks for the email, yes it can be considered as a
>> counter-proposal to be discussed. definitely we have to solve
>> before the coming soon VC election.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2015-07-07 2:14 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>>
>> I hope this finds you well and fully recovered from travel to
>> Buenos Aires.
>>
>>
>> As you may recall, NCSG participants in in the January
>> intersessional in Washington committed to providing a
>> counter-proposal by the end of the Singapore meeting to the CSG
>> proposal on election procedures going forward for the vice chair
>> slot. The rest of the CSG leadership asked me to check with you
>> on whether Avri?s text at the link below is in fact the
>> counter-proposal from NCSG, and if not, when we could expect to
>> receive one. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Steve Metalitz , for CSG Executive Committee
>>
>> From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>
>> [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Avri
>> Doria
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:42 AM
>> To: gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org>
>> Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what
>> we all have time for
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sometime in February, I created this first version of a simple
>> procedure
>> for NCPH election of a v-chair. I gave this to Rafik and David. David
>> was unhappy with it, and then I got distracted and further work just
>> stalled.
>>
>> So here we are, one meeting away from needing to elect a new v-chair.
>> While knowing that no one but me thinks this is a possible way to go,
>> here it is to beat on.
>>
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zpkznZGutvze0hI4BLePoaZWoqLWhioq-tjwVKCiyqs/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>> The doc is open for comments and suggested changes by anyone with the
>> URL. At the moment Rakif, David and I am the only editors, but more
>> than happy to add SG/C others, all you need to do is let me know what
>> email/login you use for editing drive docs. The editors would be the
>> ones to accept the changes - I don't want to presume to do so - except
>> of course for typos, which I will gladly accept. Note, however, you do
>> not need to have edit priviledge to suggest changes, and I recommend
>> that even those with editor priviledge use suggest mode to suggest
>> changes.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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