[PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

Avri Doria avri
Thu Aug 6 14:09:07 EEST 2015


Hi,

I think the amendment is unfortunate as id does not really consider the
proposal that was offered and the advantage of everyone first voicing
the candidate that would be totally unacceptable - the elephant that is
always in the room with us.

But since we operate by rough consensus, my opposition should not be
significant.

avri


On 06-Aug-15 04:25, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks,
> so I can assume that we are ok with small amendment proposed by CSG?
> looking to hear from other so I can respond to Steve.
>
> Rafik
>
> 2015-07-26 6:10 GMT+09:00 Joy Liddicoat <joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz
> <mailto:joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz>>:
>
>     Hi ? I also agree
>
>     Joy
>
>      
>
>     *From:*PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org
>     <mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org>] *On Behalf Of *Marilia Maciel
>     *Sent:* Friday, 24 July 2015 12:21 a.m.
>     *To:* Rafik Dammak
>     *Cc:* NCSG-Policy
>     *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair
>     election - just what we all have time for
>
>      
>
>     Also agree. 
>
>     Mar?lia
>
>      
>
>     On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Rafik Dammak
>     <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>      
>
>     it sounds a fair request, CSG conducted such interviews for
>     candidates for previous elections.
>
>      
>
>     @everyone is there any objection or suggestion? we should respond
>     soon ,
>
>      
>
>     Best,
>
>      
>
>     Rafik
>
>      
>
>     2015-07-19 22:55 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>
>     sounds reasonable to me...but I am perhaps not suffficiently
>     exercise on this issue.
>     cheers SP
>
>     On 2015-07-19 9:21, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Also fine by me. Perhaps also formalise the option to interview
>     the candidate? If I recall correctly, they held a call with David
>     prior to agreeing to him as a VC. This is only a suggestion. It
>     may (or may not) come in handy at some point.
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Amr
>
>     On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>     <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Fine by me.
>
>     BD
>
>     On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     You will found below the comments from CSG to Avri
>     counter-proposal regarding VC chair process. they will accept it
>     and offering an amendment.
>     can you please review so we can move forward with this issue. the
>     VC chair election is coming soon.
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     From: Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>     Date: 2015-07-14 7:54 GMT+09:00
>     Subject: RE: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>     just what we all have time for
>     To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>
>
>     Hi Rafik,
>
>      
>     This was discussed by the CSG Executive Committee last week, and
>     we are prepared to accept the counter-proposal with one change. 
>     We did not understand why the first round was structured as a
>     ?vote against round, i.e., a voting procedure where everyone votes
>     for the candidate they would like to see least in the role.?   We
>     think the same objective could be achieved by a conventional
>     voting procedure, with the top two (or more in case of a tie) vote
>     getters proceeding to the second round.
>
>      
>     With that change we are prepared to move toward setting a schedule
>     for the vice chair election (i.e., a deadline for nominations,
>     acceptances, and scheduling of the rounds). Please let me know if
>     NCSG will accept this relatively minor change so we can move to
>     the next step
>
>      
>     The CSG Executive Committee also wished to convey that while we
>     are prepared to accept this approach for this year, our proposal
>     form last January remains on the table in order to provide a
>     permanent solution through rotation of nominations.
>
>      
>     Looking forward to your response.
>
>      
>     Steve Metalitz
>
>      
>     .
>
>     From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>     Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 10:55 PM
>     To: Metalitz, Steven
>     Subject: Re: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>     just what we all have time for
>
>      
>     Hi Steve,
>
>      
>     thanks for the email, yes it can be considered as a
>     counter-proposal to be discussed. definitely we have to solve
>     before the coming soon VC election.
>
>      
>     Best,
>
>
>
>     Rafik
>
>      
>     2015-07-07 2:14 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>     <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>
>     Hi Rafik,
>
>      
>     I hope this finds you well and fully recovered from travel to
>     Buenos Aires.
>
>      
>     As you may recall, NCSG participants in in the January
>     intersessional in Washington committed to providing a
>     counter-proposal by the end of the Singapore meeting to the CSG
>     proposal on election procedures going forward for the vice chair
>     slot.  The rest of the CSG leadership asked me to check with you
>     on whether Avri?s text at the link below is in fact the
>     counter-proposal from NCSG, and if not, when we could expect to
>     receive one.  Thanks!
>
>      
>     Steve Metalitz , for CSG Executive Committee
>
>     From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Avri
>     Doria
>     Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:42 AM
>     To: gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org>
>     Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what
>     we all have time for
>
>      
>     Hi,
>
>     Sometime in February, I created this first version of a simple
>     procedure
>     for NCPH election of a v-chair. I gave this to Rafik and David. David
>     was unhappy with it, and then I got distracted and further work just
>     stalled.
>
>     So here we are, one meeting away from needing to elect a new v-chair.
>     While knowing that no one but me thinks this is a possible way to go,
>     here it is to beat on.
>
>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zpkznZGutvze0hI4BLePoaZWoqLWhioq-tjwVKCiyqs/edit?usp=sharing>
>
>     The doc is open for comments and suggested changes by anyone with the
>     URL. At the moment Rakif, David and I am the only editors, but more
>     than happy to add SG/C others, all you need to do is let me know what
>     email/login you use for editing drive docs. The editors would be the
>     ones to accept the changes - I don't want to presume to do so - except
>     of course for typos, which I will gladly accept. Note, however, you do
>     not need to have edit priviledge to suggest changes, and I recommend
>     that even those with editor priviledge use suggest mode to suggest
>     changes.
>
>     avri
>
>
>
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