[PC-NCSG] Privacy and proxy accreditation working group

Fri Nov 29 17:32:10 EET 2013

Hello,

I agree with Wendy here, chair role is critical and I don't see why someone
here shouldn't volunteer
I see that you are working already on coordination and you can support each
other there.  is Kathy also involved? I was thinking if it is possible to
take such opportunity and bringing other privacy experts within NCSG to be
involved in the WG (we have some and I will try to approach them). also
having newbies involved there to learn from you (there are really  few WGs
where you can find several NCSG members involved), just following the
discussion and endorsing your proposals and comments  can be enough(just
think about the impact when it will be the  time to decide for the
consensus..).
I don't want to add a burden on you, but we can work to expand the base of
members participating in WGs , sharing the workload and doing some
knowledge transfer because it can be definitely intimidating for newcomers.

Best,

Rafik

2013/11/29 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>

> Hey Wendy,
>
> You raise an interesting point. I would be grateful if you could elaborate
> on it a little. In my limited experience, I have yet to participate in any
> effort where the Chair of a WG used his/her coordination role to direct the
> deliberations in favour of one interest group or another. Is that sort of
> scenario common? Can a WG Chair get away with it? Can?t the WG members do
> anything to reign him/her in?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Wendy Seltzer <wendy at SELTZER.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In my opinion, we'd get more from the agenda-setting of chairing than
> > we'd lose in advocacy -- so I'd love to see one of us do it if willing.
> >
> > I'm unlikely to be able to join a call this Tuesday, due to a prior
> > engagement all day, but I do plan to participate in the group.
> >
> > --Wendy
> >
> > On 11/28/2013 03:59 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I agree with Avri. The WG Wiki page doesn?t have a list of WG members
> posted there yet, but from what I saw at the WG introductory meeting in BA,
> I?m guessing there will be considerable CSG/IPC and At-Large participation.
> With Maria serving as the Council liaison, having one of us serve as a
> co-chair will impact our participation as advocates. Speaking for myself,
> I?d rather spend my time on this WG duking it out with the IPC and At-Large
> familiars than doing anything else. If the rest of you have thoughts on the
> importance of having an NCSG co-chair, I would reconsider. Maybe having
> someone from the contracted parties would do instead?
> >>
> >> Avri?, I?m not sure if you?re on this WG, so apart from Maria, the NCSG
> members I?m aware of on this one are Stephanie, Roy, Wendy and myself. I am
> also not aware of any NPOC members on board. If I?m not mistaken,
> Marie-Laure, Rudi and Klaus are on this list (the PC list). Folks?, please
> try to get at least one member from NPOC on this WG.
> >>
> >> Having Don on this WG will also be great. He helped a great deal
> chairing the privacy sub-team on the ?thick? Whois PDP WG. He?s also a good
> choice to consider as co-chair along with a CSG member.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Amr
> >>
> >> On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Maria is this the group you are liaison for? If so that might be
> enough leadership and contribution to the neutral pool.
> >>>
> >>> Unless this is a group with lots of NCSG participants, we might want
> to give the neutralizing chair role a pass.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> It looks like the first call of the P&P working group will be next
> Tuesday at 1500 UTC. They'll be electing a chair / co-chairs. I'd talked to
> registrars and IPC about this when I thought I might run for chair, and
> they were happy with the idea of an NCSG and an IPC co-chair, both for some
> notion of balance and also because it's a really large working group (30+
> ppl already) and will likely be pretty intensive.
> >>>
> >>> Staff will send out note of the call in the next 24 hours.
> >>>
> >>> We should think in the meantime of who we may want to put forward as a
> co chair. Amr? Stephanie?
> >>>
> >>> Wendy is also signed up to this group as well as Don Blumenthal who's
> obv not a member but will be helpful. I'll continue to be in it and be the
> liaison to the gnso council for it, basically just reporting back. I don't
> remember if any NPOC ppl were signed up.
> >>>
> >>> Or we may decide we want to maximise our number of advocates in the
> group and not lose one to chairing.
> >>>
> >>> Either way, we should decide and prepare.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Maria
> >>>
> >>>
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