[PC-NCSG] Privacy and proxy accreditation working group

[Amr Elsadr]

Hey Wendy,

You raise an interesting point. I would be grateful if you could elaborate on it a little. In my limited experience, I have yet to participate in any effort where the Chair of a WG used his/her coordination role to direct the deliberations in favour of one interest group or another. Is that sort of scenario common? Can a WG Chair get away with it? Can?t the WG members do anything to reign him/her in?

Thanks.

Amr

On Nov 28, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Wendy Seltzer <wendy at SELTZER.COM> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In my opinion, we'd get more from the agenda-setting of chairing than
> we'd lose in advocacy -- so I'd love to see one of us do it if willing.
> 
> I'm unlikely to be able to join a call this Tuesday, due to a prior
> engagement all day, but I do plan to participate in the group.
> 
> --Wendy
> 
> On 11/28/2013 03:59 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree with Avri. The WG Wiki page doesn?t have a list of WG members posted there yet, but from what I saw at the WG introductory meeting in BA, I?m guessing there will be considerable CSG/IPC and At-Large participation. With Maria serving as the Council liaison, having one of us serve as a co-chair will impact our participation as advocates. Speaking for myself, I?d rather spend my time on this WG duking it out with the IPC and At-Large familiars than doing anything else. If the rest of you have thoughts on the importance of having an NCSG co-chair, I would reconsider. Maybe having someone from the contracted parties would do instead?
>> 
>> Avri?, I?m not sure if you?re on this WG, so apart from Maria, the NCSG members I?m aware of on this one are Stephanie, Roy, Wendy and myself. I am also not aware of any NPOC members on board. If I?m not mistaken, Marie-Laure, Rudi and Klaus are on this list (the PC list). Folks?, please try to get at least one member from NPOC on this WG.
>> 
>> Having Don on this WG will also be great. He helped a great deal chairing the privacy sub-team on the ?thick? Whois PDP WG. He?s also a good choice to consider as co-chair along with a CSG member.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amr
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Maria is this the group you are liaison for? If so that might be enough leadership and contribution to the neutral pool.
>>> 
>>> Unless this is a group with lots of NCSG participants, we might want to give the neutralizing chair role a pass.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> It looks like the first call of the P&P working group will be next Tuesday at 1500 UTC. They'll be electing a chair / co-chairs. I'd talked to registrars and IPC about this when I thought I might run for chair, and they were happy with the idea of an NCSG and an IPC co-chair, both for some notion of balance and also because it's a really large working group (30+ ppl already) and will likely be pretty intensive. 
>>> 
>>> Staff will send out note of the call in the next 24 hours. 
>>> 
>>> We should think in the meantime of who we may want to put forward as a co chair. Amr? Stephanie?
>>> 
>>> Wendy is also signed up to this group as well as Don Blumenthal who's obv not a member but will be helpful. I'll continue to be in it and be the liaison to the gnso council for it, basically just reporting back. I don't remember if any NPOC ppl were signed up. 
>>> 
>>> Or we may decide we want to maximise our number of advocates in the group and not lose one to chairing. 
>>> 
>>> Either way, we should decide and prepare. 
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Maria
>>> 
>>> 
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>> 
>>> Avri Doria
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Wendy Seltzer -- wendy at seltzer.org +1 617.863.0613
> Policy Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
> Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School Information Society Project
> http://wendy.seltzer.org/
> https://www.chillingeffects.org/
> https://www.torproject.org/
> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg