[NCSG-FC] Finance Committee Intersessional Taskforce

Sat Jul 20 19:37:37 EEST 2019

Thanks Sam,

I believe we are on the same page here.

Ayden

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On Saturday, 20 July 2019 05:46, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:

> Ayden & FC colleagues,
>
> As we strive for transparency, as issues/incidents emerge it will always be appropriate for the Finance Committee "to act", but (and I accept comment here), such "acting" is reporting to the NCSG Executive Committee. At the same time I remind us that the transcripts/audio of our FC meetings is public and that we should exercise caution and integrity our discussions there. I will always caution against intemperate or speculative inferences, and for the FC to remain evidence based in its communications to the Executive Committee.
>
> Sam
>
> On 7/20/2019 12:25 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sam,
>>
>> The situation is quite a bit more nuanced than Farzaneh’s email below suggests.
>>
>> We can discuss further on our call on Tuesday. I believe there is an important role for the Finance Committee to play in ensuring that stakeholder group resources are being appropriately utilised.
>>
>> I have heard a disturbing allegation that I am in the process of verifying. If true, I believe it would be appropriate for the Finance Committee to act. Until I can confirm it’s veracity, which I am doing as we speak, I will say no more.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 01:14, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Farzaneh, Ayden, et. al.,
>>>
>>> It may seem minor but there is an ocean of difference between a Finance Committee "telling the stakeholder group how it should spend the money". which it cannot and should not due, and the Finance Committee looking at how money is spent and offering commentary, through the channels by which it reports, to assist NCSG to "ensure that the funding is being put to good use". "Good" here is defined within the context of (a) most efficient ways (e.g. email not fax :-) ), (b) the Charter of NCSG, and (c) the terms of reference and conditions set down by ICANN. Rest assured, this in no way suggests that the Finance Committee is about to go setting priorities for expenditures.
>>>
>>> Sam Lanfranco, NPOC
>>>
>>> On 7/19/2019 7:38 PM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Farzaneh,
>>>>
>>>> As you have not been on any of the Finance Committee’s calls, at least since March when I became Chair, you may not be aware of our current activities. We have been taking great care to stay within the parameters of our Charter and have been developing Internal Operating Procedures and a Code of Ethical Conduct to guide our behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to give you the opportunity to learn more about what the Finance Committee has prioritised and what we are working on this month. While you are not a Member or Observer of this committee, as defined within the Charter you reference below, we do value the input of all those who take an interest in our work.
>>>>
>>>> Please advise if you are available for a call on Monday at 1500 UTC so we can discuss this issue further. I will ask the Ombudsman to join us.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 19:22, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Finance Committee,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remember your mandate as defined by the charter. You are not in charge of telling the stakeholder group how it should spend the money or "ensure that the funding is being put to good use" otherwise, you will be violating the charter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden really cares about the intersessional so he wants to do whatever in his power to shape it the way he wants it to be held. On its own, this doesn't really matter. He can provide  his feedback.  But bringing it to a committee that we have said over and over is not in charge of telling the stakeholder how to spend the money is not the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> A very humble observer on this mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 4:50 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to encourage the Finance Committee to initiate a taskforce to monitor Intersessional preparations to ensure that the funding we have graciously received to host this event is being put to good use. We can discuss further on our next call. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
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