<div>Thanks Sam,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I believe we are on the same page here.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Saturday, 20 July 2019 05:46, Sam Lanfranco <sam@lanfranco.net> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p>Ayden & FC colleagues,<br></p><p>As we strive for transparency, as issues/incidents emerge it will
always be appropriate for the Finance Committee "to act", but (and
I accept comment here), such "acting" is reporting to the NCSG
Executive Committee. At the same time I remind us that the
transcripts/audio of our FC meetings is public and that we should
exercise caution and integrity our discussions there. I will
always caution against intemperate or speculative inferences, and
for the FC to remain evidence based in its communications to the
Executive Committee.<br></p><p>Sam <br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2019 12:25 AM, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Thanks Sam,<br></div><div><br></div><div>The situation is quite a bit more nuanced than Farzaneh’s
email below suggests. <br></div><div><br></div><div>We can discuss further on our call on Tuesday. I believe
there is an important role for the Finance Committee to play in
ensuring that stakeholder group resources are being
appropriately utilised. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I have heard a disturbing allegation that I am in the process
of verifying. If true, I believe it would be appropriate for the
Finance Committee to act. Until I can confirm it’s veracity,
which I am doing as we speak, I will say no more. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 01:14, Sam Lanfranco <<a class href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>>
wrote: <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><p>Farzaneh, Ayden, et. al.,<br></p><p>It may seem minor but there is an ocean of difference between
a Finance Committee "telling the stakeholder group how it
should spend the money". which it cannot and should not due,
and the Finance Committee looking at how money is spent and
offering commentary, through the channels by which it reports,
to assist NCSG to "ensure that the funding is being put to
good use". "Good" here is defined within the context of (a)
most efficient ways (e.g. email not fax <span><span>:-)</span></span> ), (b) the
Charter of NCSG, and (c) the terms of reference and conditions
set down by ICANN. Rest assured, this in no way suggests that
the Finance Committee is about to go setting priorities for
expenditures.<br></p><p>Sam Lanfranco, NPOC<br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/19/2019 7:38 PM, Ayden
Férdeline wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Farzaneh,<br></div><div><br></div><div>As you have not been on any of the Finance Committee’s
calls, at least since March when I became Chair, you may not
be aware of our current activities. We have been taking
great care to stay within the parameters of our Charter and
have been developing Internal Operating Procedures and a
Code of Ethical Conduct to guide our behaviour. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to give you the opportunity to learn more
about what the Finance Committee has prioritised and what we
are working on this month. While you are not a Member or
Observer of this committee, as defined within the Charter
you reference below, we do value the input of all those who
take an interest in our work. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Please advise if you are available for a call on Monday
at 1500 UTC so we can discuss this issue further. I will ask
the Ombudsman to join us. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Ayden Férdeline <br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 19:22, farzaneh badii <<a class href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>
wrote: <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dear Finance
Committee,<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please remember
your mandate as defined by the charter. You are not in
charge of telling the stakeholder group how it should
spend the money or "ensure that the funding is being put
to good use" otherwise, you will be violating the
charter. <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Ayden really
cares about the intersessional so he wants to do
whatever in his power to shape it the way he wants it to
be held. On its own, this doesn't really matter. He can
provide his feedback. But bringing it to a committee
that we have said over and over is not in charge of
telling the stakeholder how to spend the money is not
the way to go. <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A very humble
observer on this mailing list. <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at
4:50 PM Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>Dear all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to encourage the Finance Committee to
initiate a taskforce to monitor Intersessional
preparations to ensure that the funding we have
graciously received to host this event is being put to
good use. We can discuss further on our next call.
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