[NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
farzaneh badii
farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Sun Sep 2 17:31:20 EEST 2018
Answers in line Remmy
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Farzaneh
> Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
>
> 1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
> meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
> 2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
> be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
> Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
> become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am
> also in line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on
> automatic observer for chair for PC.
>
> Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I
think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs
involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are
specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide
your reasons?
>
> 1.
> 2. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
> Procedure (accepted_
> 3. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
> finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
> 4. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
> (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
> Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering
> the difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG
> including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its
> going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if
> Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
>
> Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean others
won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
>
> 1.
> 2. Thato to review 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight
> and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
> 3. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
> consultation etc
> 4. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
> Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
> how he can approach the issue.
> 5. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato
> and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
> sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
> in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
> or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
> decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
> not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision
> is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should
> suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided
> house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
>
> You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did not
want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require FC be
in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the opportunity
arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I would like to
tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that you have passed
and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed this many many
times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite amusing that you
first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus and then ask me not
to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources for NCSG to do
policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.
Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
> not.
>
> Thanks again, great work.
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> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
>> meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
>> 2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
>> be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
>> Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
>> become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
>> 3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee
>> Operating Procedure (accepted_
>> 4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
>> finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>> 5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
>> (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
>> Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
>> 6. Thato to review 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
>> oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>> 7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
>> consultation etc
>> 8. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
>> Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
>> how he can approach the issue.
>> 9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since
>> Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent
>>
>> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
>> not.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
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