[NCSG-FC] FW: FC meeting at ICANN63 Barcelona

[farzaneh badii]

Renata is right. we need to discuss things on FC mailing list. I didn't
notice it was not cc'd. I will cc.
Farzaneh


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:04 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> [observer]
>
> Hi Thato
>
> I will be in ICANN63 and I think it would be good to pencil in an FC
> meeeting with all NCSG members, but that is up to NCSG Chair.
> I think FC who aren't in ICANN63 could attend remotely.
> NCSG, though, I know has a full schedule meeting with other SO/ACs so
> it might be hard to find time for a meeting.
>
> I realize you sent this message in private to try and get the whole FC in
> sync.
> But because all the Constituencies have a commitment to openness and
> transparency, it would be best to have all discussions on list only,
> even if they raise criticisms.
>
> I don't agree with a lot of what has been done as well but I have
> discovered the hard way that it better to document publicly step by
> step of any conversation.
>
> As an observer of the FC, I'll chime in the document and I agree the
> FC should have participation and support.
>
> Every travel support decision, though, is collectively made and
> involvement in policy (such as public comments writing) are taken into
> account.
>
> So as I`ve said before, I wish the FC thrives both in policy and
> governance. It is a new committee, without even agreed procedures. If
> we all manage to agree on those, it will be already a big step.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just wanted to check with everyone if the following would suffice for
> > ICANN 63 please note I am not ignoring Farzaneh's comment:
> >
> > - Participation in NCSG outreach activities or inreach efforts: the role
> of
> > FC would be to present and introduce the FC and outlines some of the
> current
> > and planned FC activities. This will require that the FC sits on a panel
> of
> > a relevant workshop or meeting (Information sharing and creating
> awareness)
> >
> > - Development of an agenda centered around resolving the FC OP and its
> > synergies with the NCSG Charter, the role if FC is to lead this meeting
> with
> > the NCSG membership in attendance as this will also enable members to
> > understand the role of the FC and how to support.This meeting could also
> > look at other things but the OP and the Charter remain critical to
> effective
> > operation of the FC when 2019 commences. This was recorded in minutes of
> our
> > last meeting.
> >
> > - Attending an ICANN meeting (any meeting to be clear), will help the FC
> > keep up with discussions around ICANN Budgets, Reserve funds and other
> funds
> > kept by ICANN, these will ease the communication with ICANN finance and
> > other potential external funders for fundraising purposes and ensuring
> C's
> > and the SG receive fair and equivalent.
> >
> > Looking forward to your thoughts, Maryam wants to submit a request on our
> > behalf by Friday and of course it will be subject to the entire NCSG EC
> > approval.
> >
> > It is  not helpful for members to take FC issues to the public mailing
> list
> > although anyone can see mail threads of the FC, can we please avoid
> opposing
> > each other because we all have different views and as leaders we need to
> > avoid falling on to the trap of insubordination because it will always
> pose
> > problems to the proper functioning of the FC, it seems like this also
> needs
> > to be repeated, as it seems like the FC is in competition with itself.
> >
> > The charter has provisions on how decision can be made within the FC if
> > members cannot reach consensus but we do not want to go to that route
> > because we want an environment conducive to collaboration and harmony,
> but
> > if needs it be, we will have to visit the charter to obtain direction and
> > guide incase of contention of ideas or perspectives, no one person or
> > individual FC member has authority to dictate or intentionally circumvent
> > activities or decisions of the FC but it is the entire FC itself that
> > collectively makes decisions. Furthermore, as the Chair of the FC, I do
> not
> > take sides but I support that which I think is best for the FC
> irrespective
> > of who proposes an idea.
> >
> > Farzaneh, with all due respect, I think it was wrong to share the
> document
> > the way you did, knowing very well that the FC did not agree or discuss
> the
> > release of the working draft, irrespective of your reasons, we need to
> work
> > together. Our focus is to build a functional FC for NCSG as opposed to
> > preempting the FC goals and plans, lets give it a fair opportunity to
> > participate in NCSG activities , thanks.
> >
> > Thato Mfikwe.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:25 PM, farzaneh badii <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thato
> >>
> >> If FC members wont be going to the meeting already, there is no reason
> to
> >> have an f2f finance meeting. Only if you can already go
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Maryam,
> >>>
> >>> Let me first discuss this with the FC and get back to you, what is the
> >>> timeframe for this submission? I had a stand alone meeting in mind but
> let
> >>> me check with members how viable this would be, thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Thato Mfikwe.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Maryam Bakoshi
> >>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Thato, all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Based on the discussions on the mailing list, please could you confirm
> >>>> that you want a stand alone FC face to face meeting scheduled in the
> ICANN63
> >>>> Barcelona meeting. If so, how long would you want the meeting for, so
> I can
> >>>> plan to add it to the NCSG meeting requests.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> —
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> >>>>
> >>>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >>>>
> >>>> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Farzaneh
> >
> >
>
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