[NCSG-FC] [DRAFT-2] NCSG-FC Operating Procedures v2 first clean copy

Sat Jul 14 04:44:39 EEST 2018

The issues that were raised in the past because of the different
interpretation of the charter and needs to be cleared are the obligation of
FC (section 3 of operating procedures) . Since in the other doc I can see
that Remmy relies on the NCSG charter to argue for providing oversight for
constituencies through NCSG FC, I think it is crucial to talk to  those who
were involved in drafting it to know what the charter means and can help us
with its correct interpretation.

I think we should get a reality check on why FC was suggested in the
charter, what was the rationale for it. Then we can get a clearer
interpretation.

So I believe a meeting with the drafters of the charter and the FC and
observers and whoever else we want is needed. I think it can help us.

Best

Farzaneh

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:42 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry if you felt otherwise.
> I only resolve the issues I was clear have been discussed and an
> understanding established.
>
> I am precisely interested in ensuring fair engagement, so do a pointer to
> the ones you and Thato had an agreement on and it will be taken as resolve.
>
> I also reworked some as he proposed with hope that will make same better
> sense.
>
> Why do you intend inviting supposed drafters of NCSG charter? As far as
> this charter is concerned they do not have any privilege of decision so why
> that route. If there are issues we can resolve with voting as contained in
> charter.
>
> Regards
> RN
>
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:52 pm Thato Mfikwe, <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>
>> Which points do you have doubts about on the Charter and why? Secondly,
>> is this the first time these doubts or concerns are emerging, if not please
>> elaborate? Thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, farzaneh badii <
>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> How is this a second draft? You kept most of the issues that we flagged
>>> unresolved and kept your original language. Even the ones which Thato
>>> agreed with me and had suggested alternatives.
>>>
>>> You should either as the penholder suggest a compromise, or flag all
>>> these issues before we discuss with the members.
>>>
>>> Also, at this stage, I think we need to have a meeting with those who
>>> drafted the NCSG charter to discuss and clarify the points we have doubts
>>> about.
>>>
>>> Moreover,  we need to discuss inviting two more members to join the FC.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please see link for the first clean copy.
>>>>
>>>> Items left unresolved are the ones I thought needs more discussion
>>>> except if those who made points there decides its ok then, let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
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> On 13 Jul 2018 10:52 pm, "Thato Mfikwe" <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Farzaneh,
>
> Which points do you have doubts about on the Charter and why? Secondly, is
> this the first time these doubts or concerns are emerging, if not please
> elaborate? Thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Remmy
>>
>> Thank you.
>> How is this a second draft? You kept most of the issues that we flagged
>> unresolved and kept your original language. Even the ones which Thato
>> agreed with me and had suggested alternatives.
>>
>> You should either as the penholder suggest a compromise, or flag all
>> these issues before we discuss with the members.
>>
>> Also, at this stage, I think we need to have a meeting with those who
>> drafted the NCSG charter to discuss and clarify the points we have doubts
>> about.
>>
>> Moreover,  we need to discuss inviting two more members to join the FC.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please see link for the first clean copy.
>>>
>>> Items left unresolved are the ones I thought needs more discussion
>>> except if those who made points there decides its ok then, let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>> ____
>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>>> <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>>>
>>> *South-South Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6
>>> Roundtable <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
>>> (Uyo, Akwa-Ibom State). JOIN us!!
>>>
>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS
>>> <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>
>>> *NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
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