[NCSG-FC] DRAFT NCSG-FC Operating Procedures

Sun Jul 8 18:47:10 EEST 2018

I have already put my comment in the document Remmy shared.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:38 AM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Farzaneh,
>
> Can you please place your comments on the Google doc so that it becomes
> easier to follow on and resolve. Eventually the FC needs to comment on the
> draft operational procedures before sharing with membership for comment,
> hopefully by next Friday we can have a consolidated and clean doc to share
> with members.
>
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 3:21 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If that's the case and some accept your line of argument then the
>> question is why have ncsg bank account at all? Both npoc and ncuc have bank
>> accounts. Then you don't have to keep "incidental" charges. I totally do
>> not agree with this plan. NCSG on its own also needs to have access to
>> money. And this division between constituencies doesn't sound like a
>> solution.
>> I do recommend sharing this document with the members very soon.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:02 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I meant dictate not dedicate please in line four.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 8:59 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comment Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>> I will for now respond to the issue on sharing formula, because I know
>>>> wherever the external fund is warehoused will incur charges  of
>>>> transactions therefore, you have to provision for that incidental, whether
>>>> it's 20 or 10 per cent respectively.
>>>>
>>>> The organization or community warehousing via SPV should not be
>>>> shortchanged as I expect them to give reports of what they are doing with
>>>> their funds as stipulated in the Charter, I do not think it's in our place
>>>> to dedicate to them on how to manage it but must be seen as carried along
>>>> to know what they are doing and with the available fund.
>>>>
>>>> I will revert later in the day on other issues and I hope we make our
>>>> comments on the google doc so as to avoid missing any comments when some of
>>>> these are resolved. I will also move this response there too.
>>>>
>>>> See you much later as I am headed out for mass.
>>>> Thanks and best of the Sunday.
>>>> Remmy
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:56 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Remmy,
>>>>>
>>>>> This Paragraph:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * 1. Volunteer ServiceNCSG Finance Committee members serve as
>>>>> volunteers, without compensation. This contribution is respected and
>>>>> appreciated. However, reimbursement of reasonable and necessary expenses
>>>>> will be available for travel to face-to-face meetings and to outreach
>>>>> events as approved by the NCSG Finance Committee Chair, in accordance with
>>>>> applicable terms of ICANN's travel reimbursement policy.*
>>>>> You are aware that the Finance Committee does not receive travel slots
>>>>> from ICANN? And then Finance Chair approves reimbursement of travel of
>>>>> Finance committee member? From what funding? I don't agree with this. I
>>>>> don't think Finance Committee can approve an allocation of travel to itself
>>>>> from outside funding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also this paragraph:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    6. Disbursement of funds to constituencies:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * 1. Any inflow arising from external funding, shall be
>>>>> distributed/disbursed based on 40-40-20 formula; that is, 40 per cent each
>>>>> for both constituencies (NPOC and NCUC) while the NCSG-FC retains 20 per
>>>>> cent as a running cost for its administrative incidentals or as may be
>>>>> agreed with exercise of voting process on best module at the time of
>>>>> disbursement. 1. Also, each constituency can apply for its own funding once
>>>>> pronouncement has been made on availability of any inflow with sufficient
>>>>> evidence on anticipated expenditure plan.*
>>>>> F NCSG has to be included in these plans. There should be no
>>>>> allocation of distributed funding based on the percentage between
>>>>> constituencies but distribution should be based on requests. FC should at a
>>>>> more general level set the principles on how these requests will be
>>>>> processed.
>>>>> and 20 percent goes to FC? I don't really understand why. what is
>>>>> administrative incidental? Don't know what this means:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1.
>>>>>
>>>>>    or as may be agreed with exercise of voting process on best module
>>>>>    at the time of disbursement.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:44 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really remmy. First draft can be shared with members on your
>>>>>> personal behalf, set a deadline for their comments. FC can also make
>>>>>> comments during this time. You can give the members 3-4  weeks to comment.
>>>>>> Then we discuss at FC level. If we make major substantive changes we need
>>>>>> to consult with members again and then see if we can adopt it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:36 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes Farzaneh, of course it will be shared at the NCSG mailing list,
>>>>>>> but I will advise we review it first, take in a few comments from the FC
>>>>>>> and observers inclusive before then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before now no body here has seen it outside me, so it will be
>>>>>>> disrespectful for now until may be by end of this coming week for people to
>>>>>>> turn in their first phase of review/comments if any on the draft.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bearing in mind if it goes out, it's on behalf of FC, which Thato
>>>>>>> got to do in his current capacity as chair, I can only deputise for him for
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I so plead and thanks for your understanding madam chair and all.
>>>>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 9:49 pm farzaneh badii, <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> please share this on the ncsg mailing list as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>> Hope this meets us all well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please find below the Google Doc link to the DRAFT NCSG-FC
>>>>>>>>> Operating Procedures
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/15v4rGUoLR1EOkCLZKhM_qqMWCv8MM6xA/view?usp=sharing>
>>>>>>>>> for your input and flesh-up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We may need also agree on the duration of period for comments on
>>>>>>>>> this draft moving forward to enable us resolve the draft and prepare it for
>>>>>>>>> further actions as may be decided.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do well to acknowledge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Farnaeh,
>>>>>>>>> As much as I appreciate your intentions, I think the comments
>>>>>>>>> should be in the Google Doc, Which I think is still available for NCSG
>>>>>>>>> public except if the comment period is over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But basically the document should be all encompassing for all
>>>>>>>>> committees rather than exclusive for PC and urge you to use your good
>>>>>>>>> offices to correct that impression.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am still thinking why FC was not even considered in the
>>>>>>>>> preparation of the document ab nitio. It will be nice to know.
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2018 2:22 pm, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I only shared this document with you as finance committee to
>>>>>>>>> consider the broader principles of operating procedures. I did not share so
>>>>>>>>> that you comment as FC. If you have comments please share with NCSG mailing
>>>>>>>>> list before the deadline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sending this across  Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have taken time to run through it and has since added some
>>>>>>>>>> comments in it believing that NCSG is for all the stakeholders constituency
>>>>>>>>>> under its schedule and I hope it's resolved as part of document for EC
>>>>>>>>>> approval on July 8.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The PC focus of the document for me is a little myopic as I
>>>>>>>>>> expect it to be all encompassing and looking at the big picture of NCSG and
>>>>>>>>>> should have taken other relevant committees under NCSG.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:29 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thato
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I only sent this for FC as a sample to think about overarching
>>>>>>>>>>> rules and principles for operating procedures.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 7:03 AM Thato Mfikwe <
>>>>>>>>>>> thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Farzii,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will take time to look at it and provide comments, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:34 AM, farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>>>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find below a link to NCSG travel policy which has not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet been approved by NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The EC will discuss this policy after 8 July and we will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on approving it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit#
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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