[NCSG-FC] DRAFT NCSG-FC Operating Procedures
Remmy Nweke
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Mon Jul 9 01:10:27 EEST 2018
Of course it will be shared with members very soon. No one has said
othrewise.
Well, the incidental charges, or the per centage to be kept by NcSG-FC in
this case does not mean creating a separate account but will be like a
withholding percent in the SPV wherever it is agreed to be warehoused
either with NPOC or NCUC.
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On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:21 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:
> If that's the case and some accept your line of argument then the question
> is why have ncsg bank account at all? Both npoc and ncuc have bank
> accounts. Then you don't have to keep "incidental" charges. I totally do
> not agree with this plan. NCSG on its own also needs to have access to
> money. And this division between constituencies doesn't sound like a
> solution.
> I do recommend sharing this document with the members very soon.
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:02 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I meant dictate not dedicate please in line four.
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 8:59 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the comment Farzaneh
>>>
>>> I will for now respond to the issue on sharing formula, because I know
>>> wherever the external fund is warehoused will incur charges of
>>> transactions therefore, you have to provision for that incidental, whether
>>> it's 20 or 10 per cent respectively.
>>>
>>> The organization or community warehousing via SPV should not be
>>> shortchanged as I expect them to give reports of what they are doing with
>>> their funds as stipulated in the Charter, I do not think it's in our place
>>> to dedicate to them on how to manage it but must be seen as carried along
>>> to know what they are doing and with the available fund.
>>>
>>> I will revert later in the day on other issues and I hope we make our
>>> comments on the google doc so as to avoid missing any comments when some of
>>> these are resolved. I will also move this response there too.
>>>
>>> See you much later as I am headed out for mass.
>>> Thanks and best of the Sunday.
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:56 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remmy,
>>>>
>>>> This Paragraph:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * 1. Volunteer ServiceNCSG Finance Committee members serve as
>>>> volunteers, without compensation. This contribution is respected and
>>>> appreciated. However, reimbursement of reasonable and necessary expenses
>>>> will be available for travel to face-to-face meetings and to outreach
>>>> events as approved by the NCSG Finance Committee Chair, in accordance with
>>>> applicable terms of ICANN's travel reimbursement policy.*
>>>> You are aware that the Finance Committee does not receive travel slots
>>>> from ICANN? And then Finance Chair approves reimbursement of travel of
>>>> Finance committee member? From what funding? I don't agree with this. I
>>>> don't think Finance Committee can approve an allocation of travel to itself
>>>> from outside funding.
>>>>
>>>> Also this paragraph:
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Disbursement of funds to constituencies:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * 1. Any inflow arising from external funding, shall be
>>>> distributed/disbursed based on 40-40-20 formula; that is, 40 per cent each
>>>> for both constituencies (NPOC and NCUC) while the NCSG-FC retains 20 per
>>>> cent as a running cost for its administrative incidentals or as may be
>>>> agreed with exercise of voting process on best module at the time of
>>>> disbursement. 1. Also, each constituency can apply for its own funding once
>>>> pronouncement has been made on availability of any inflow with sufficient
>>>> evidence on anticipated expenditure plan.*
>>>> F NCSG has to be included in these plans. There should be no allocation
>>>> of distributed funding based on the percentage between constituencies but
>>>> distribution should be based on requests. FC should at a more general level
>>>> set the principles on how these requests will be processed.
>>>> and 20 percent goes to FC? I don't really understand why. what is
>>>> administrative incidental? Don't know what this means:
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>>
>>>> or as may be agreed with exercise of voting process on best module
>>>> at the time of disbursement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:44 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not really remmy. First draft can be shared with members on your
>>>>> personal behalf, set a deadline for their comments. FC can also make
>>>>> comments during this time. You can give the members 3-4 weeks to comment.
>>>>> Then we discuss at FC level. If we make major substantive changes we need
>>>>> to consult with members again and then see if we can adopt it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:36 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes Farzaneh, of course it will be shared at the NCSG mailing list,
>>>>>> but I will advise we review it first, take in a few comments from the FC
>>>>>> and observers inclusive before then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before now no body here has seen it outside me, so it will be
>>>>>> disrespectful for now until may be by end of this coming week for people to
>>>>>> turn in their first phase of review/comments if any on the draft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bearing in mind if it goes out, it's on behalf of FC, which Thato got
>>>>>> to do in his current capacity as chair, I can only deputise for him for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I so plead and thanks for your understanding madam chair and all.
>>>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 9:49 pm farzaneh badii, <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please share this on the ncsg mailing list as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> Hope this meets us all well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please find below the Google Doc link to the DRAFT NCSG-FC
>>>>>>>> Operating Procedures
>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/15v4rGUoLR1EOkCLZKhM_qqMWCv8MM6xA/view?usp=sharing>
>>>>>>>> for your input and flesh-up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We may need also agree on the duration of period for comments on
>>>>>>>> this draft moving forward to enable us resolve the draft and prepare it for
>>>>>>>> further actions as may be decided.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do well to acknowledge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry Farnaeh,
>>>>>>>> As much as I appreciate your intentions, I think the comments
>>>>>>>> should be in the Google Doc, Which I think is still available for NCSG
>>>>>>>> public except if the comment period is over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But basically the document should be all encompassing for all
>>>>>>>> committees rather than exclusive for PC and urge you to use your good
>>>>>>>> offices to correct that impression.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still thinking why FC was not even considered in the
>>>>>>>> preparation of the document ab nitio. It will be nice to know.
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2018 2:22 pm, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I only shared this document with you as finance committee to
>>>>>>>> consider the broader principles of operating procedures. I did not share so
>>>>>>>> that you comment as FC. If you have comments please share with NCSG mailing
>>>>>>>> list before the deadline.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sending this across Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have taken time to run through it and has since added some
>>>>>>>>> comments in it believing that NCSG is for all the stakeholders constituency
>>>>>>>>> under its schedule and I hope it's resolved as part of document for EC
>>>>>>>>> approval on July 8.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The PC focus of the document for me is a little myopic as I expect
>>>>>>>>> it to be all encompassing and looking at the big picture of NCSG and should
>>>>>>>>> have taken other relevant committees under NCSG.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:29 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thato
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I only sent this for FC as a sample to think about overarching
>>>>>>>>>> rules and principles for operating procedures.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 7:03 AM Thato Mfikwe <
>>>>>>>>>> thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Farzii,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Will take time to look at it and provide comments, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:34 AM, farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find below a link to NCSG travel policy which has not
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet been approved by NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The EC will discuss this policy after 8 July and we will decide
>>>>>>>>>>>> on approving it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit#
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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