[NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: NCSG FC meeting # 2 notice and requests

Fri Aug 24 07:12:54 EEST 2018

Renata please do not give wrong advice.

I believe the chairs of both constituencies have to first consult with
their EC and be invited by FC to join. Charter does not say anything about
automatic appointment.

I don't have a problem with adding the chairs as observers but I don't want
EC to have the impression that chairs are added automatically. Also Chairs
should be invited. As I was invited to FC when I was NCUC chair, if the FC
decides to invite the chairs they can.

Farzaneh

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:11 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> [observer]
>
> Dear FC
>
> I have no objection on addition of Rafik as observer.
>
> He is PC NCSG Chair and I do think there should be a practice on the
> FC of involving the 4 Chairs (NCSG, PC NCSG, NCUC and NPOC).
>
> I do believe though that the Chairs should be observers and the FC can
> do a general call on membership to inquire for volunteers to help it
> with their work.
>
> As we are in leadership renewal time in general, though, maybe it
> would be best to do this call after the AGM.
>
> When I leave NCUC (9 Oct), I'd be grateful if the FC NCSG would
> consider adding the new NCUC Chair as observer and I hope
> contributions be fruitful.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:22 AM, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Farzi,
> >
> > I dont remember rejecting participation of interested members within the
> FC,
> > maybe I have a short memory, please remind me where I refused'' because
> the
> > initial message on this threat was proposing that we should consider
> > inviting 1 or 2 people who can assist the FC (a financial background
> would
> > be very helpful), correct me if I am wrong, thanks.
> >
> > Thato Mfikwe.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:03 AM farzaneh badii <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If you want to think that's a special request then having Renata and
> Joan
> >> as observers is special too. Because we never all agreed inviting them
> and
> >> appointing them as observers and they are not entitled to be observers
> just
> >> because they are chairs.
> >>
> >> There is unnecessary resistant from you and Thato  to bring people who
> >> know a thing or two about NCSG charter and its finance committee. I
> find it
> >> unproductive. But i won't waste my time arguing over this.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:41 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the response Farzaneh
> >>>
> >>> I don't have personal issues adding him or anyone else at that, but I
> >>> think FC has means of getting observers outside the current setup,
> either as
> >>> an appointee of NCSG/subgroup.
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure any call has been made and summarily concluded to that
> >>> effect, hence it's a special request that may be urgent.
> >>>
> >>> Even if we have to invite our larger family colleagues we owe it to
> >>> current FC to place the card on the table as to the purpose not
> arbitrarily.
> >>>
> >>> I am sure we have a better ways of getting over some of these.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Remmy
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 5:25 pm farzaneh badii, <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not special. He is an observer of fc from before. If you'd like
> to
> >>>> eliminate him then I'd ask questions.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:17 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
> >>>>> Please what is the essence for this special request?
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> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:01 AM farzaneh badii
> >>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik would like to join as an observer as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Farzaneh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 6:57 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [observer]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I`d kindly ask for a dial-out, if possible
> >>>>>>> I'm sending the number to Maryam
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> > Yes confirmed
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > A dial out will be appreciated
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > +2348023122558
> >>>>>>> > Regards
> >>>>>>> > Remmy
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 3:44 pm Maryam Bakoshi,
> >>>>>>> > <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Dear all,
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Please could you confirm the request for an FC meeting on
> >>>>>>> >> Wednesday 29
> >>>>>>> >> August 2018 at 1600 UTC.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> --
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Many thanks,
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of
> >>>>>>> >> farzaneh badii
> >>>>>>> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> >>>>>>> >> Date: Thursday, 16 August 2018 at 20:50
> >>>>>>> >> To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> >>>>>>> >> Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] NCSG FC meeting # 2 notice and
> >>>>>>> >> requests
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> I can't do two hours. I do 90 minutes if needed we can have
> >>>>>>> >> another call
> >>>>>>> >> in the future. 29 at 16 UTC is fine. Consider that might be a
> bit
> >>>>>>> >> late for
> >>>>>>> >> Maryam.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Farzaneh
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:38 PM Thato Mfikwe
> >>>>>>> >> <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Hi Farzaeh and Remmy,
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Seems like we cannot agree, once again in attempt to reach an
> >>>>>>> >> agreement, I
> >>>>>>> >> am available from 27 August to 30 August, please try indicate
> your
> >>>>>>> >> preferred
> >>>>>>> >> date as we might need around 2 hours for this call, thanks.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Hi all
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> 24th and 29th are ok for me by 16utc
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Thanks
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Remmy
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 4:38 pm Thato Mfikwe, <
> thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Hi Maryam,
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Can you please kindly set up a doodle for the second NCSG FC
> >>>>>>> >> meeting
> >>>>>>> >> planned for next week - anytime between 24 August and 29 August
> >>>>>>> >> 2018.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> We all need to respond to this by 21 August so that invitations
> >>>>>>> >> can be
> >>>>>>> >> sent in advance, thanks.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Thato Mfikwe.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Acknowledged with thanks
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 1:31 pm Thato Mfikwe, <
> thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Hi all,
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> I just wanted to bring to your attention that the Draft OP
> >>>>>>> >> community
> >>>>>>> >> comment process has been officially closed as on 10 August 2018
> >>>>>>> >> and we will
> >>>>>>> >> now collectively work on harmonizing the document before
> >>>>>>> >> submission to the
> >>>>>>> >> NCSG EC, hopefully by 2nd week of September 2018.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> In the meantime, I would need us to agree on a date for review
> of
> >>>>>>> >> comments, this week or next week, please confirm the preferred
> >>>>>>> >> week for
> >>>>>>> >> holding this meeting, thanks.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> NCSG FC meeting # 2 Proposed Agenda
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Opening and welcome
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Register call and overview of the previous meeting
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Review of community comments and input
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Areas of contention and those needing further comment
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - ICANN 63 NCSG FC meeting and AGM leadership changes (NCUC &
> >>>>>>> >> NCSG)
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Next steps (ABR analysis and draft action plan)
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Any other business
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - Way forward and closure
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Overview of short-term, 3-month timeline
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - by 25 August, FC online meeting
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - by 7 September, Final OP draft completion and submission to EC
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - by 28 September, feedback from EC
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> - 20 - 28 October (ICANN 63)
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Please feel free to add agenda items you think are needed in
> this
> >>>>>>> >> proposed
> >>>>>>> >> meeting.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Please also let me know if we can invite 1 or 2 constituency
> >>>>>>> >> members (as
> >>>>>>> >> observers) into the FC in order to assist with drafting comments
> >>>>>>> >> and
> >>>>>>> >> documents or create more diversity in ideas and perspectives
> >>>>>>> >> within the FC
> >>>>>>> >> (if we decide to take this route, a financial background or
> >>>>>>> >> experience will
> >>>>>>> >> be required in order speed up integration and participation of
> new
> >>>>>>> >> members).
> >>>>>>> >> Always looking forward to your feedback and input, thanks.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Thato Mfikwe.
> >>>>>>> >>
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> >>>> Farzaneh
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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