[NCSG-EC] [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal

Fri Jan 24 16:35:34 EET 2025

Hi Rafik!

Do we already have the bank account data, or should I ask Milton directly?

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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Researcher
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Em qui., 23 de jan. de 2025 às 18:15, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Hi all,
>
> We can use the NCUC bank account as I discussed with Milton.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:45 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pedro,
>>
>> I got the task to follow up with him. I will share updates in coming days.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:37 Pedro de Perdigão Lana via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Just so we can follow up with Ajith - do we have an answer from Milton
>>> regarding the bank account?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),
>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
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>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 20:30, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, Caleb and Pedro. It’s now essential to standardize all our
>>>> financial and accounting processes. I had a brief chat with Milton in
>>>> Riyadh and mentioned that we would be reaching out to him for discussions
>>>> on the financials and also to have that as part of our reporting.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik can reach out to him either to arrange for a meeting or
>>>> get an update from him.
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:16 PM Caleb Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From what I understand, Milton handles that bank account and there is
>>>>> also another signatory. While that is as it may, I Wisdom or former NCUC
>>>>> Chair can provide information.
>>>>> However, I think Rafik mentioned he willask Milton so that would solve
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 2:55 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, can someone clarify to me what is the actual status of
>>>>>> this bank account, so I can properly answer Ajith regarding this point? I
>>>>>> don't know if it is directly related to the NCUC or if it is under Milton's
>>>>>> name, and then he administers it for the non-commercial community when
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 17:41, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Rafik, I'll answer Ajith first thing on Monday, and we can
>>>>>>> plan the initial workflow at our EC meeting. Should I message Milton, or
>>>>>>> would it be better for you or Wisdom to do it, considering you are the
>>>>>>> directly related chairs here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Juan and Wisdom that this can be watched by NCSG FC
>>>>>>> (which will be have a task similar to an internal audit committee, as far
>>>>>>> as I understand).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 10:31, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I think what is suggested by Ajith is fine and we can respond
>>>>>>>> quickly to that. For the bank account, we can check with Milton, it is not
>>>>>>>> an optimal situation but it can be the workaround for now.  We should share
>>>>>>>> this with NCSG EC then the PC. at least it will be on the agenda of the EC
>>>>>>>> call next week.
>>>>>>>> About the other points, we can work on them and define a timeline
>>>>>>>> for the delivery and write the scope of work for the fellow and how to
>>>>>>>> follow-up for progress (I guess possible task for me to prepare a
>>>>>>>> strawperson proposal and share it). The policy topics being collected are
>>>>>>>> just started and will be refined and consultation will be continuous.
>>>>>>>> Regarding the Finance Committee, we are still at the stage of formation and
>>>>>>>> resuming its activities but it will be in the loop and informed about this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>> Le ven. 3 janv. 2025 à 23:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy new year! I was mostly off during the holidays, but coming
>>>>>>>>> back to action today. I am also adding Amin to the loop, considering his
>>>>>>>>> (now official) appointment to the NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with everything that Ajith said. Do you agree with his last
>>>>>>>>> message, so we can proceed? We will probably need to receive the funding
>>>>>>>>> through the NCUC (NCSG does not have a bank account, right?), so we would
>>>>>>>>> also need to confirm details with Milton.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After that, if you all believe this would be a good idea, we
>>>>>>>>> possibly would also need an expanded NCSG leadership meeting to define the
>>>>>>>>> topics that were left to be decided on after the approval of the project
>>>>>>>>> (selection process, what would be our priority topics (do we ask the
>>>>>>>>> community? do we use the list already formed in the email Rafik send about
>>>>>>>>> policy priorities?), how would be the fellow relation with non-commercial
>>>>>>>>> leadership, etc)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA
>>>>>>>>> <https://ioda.org.br/> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>> <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qui., 2 de jan. de 2025 às 02:51, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you a very happy New Year!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope you had a good start to the new year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am writing to you with good news. We're happy to move forward
>>>>>>>>>> with this project plan but could I suggest a few minor changes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, we will disburse the lumpsum funds directly to the NCSG
>>>>>>>>>> as we have always done and the NCSG would have to allocate and make
>>>>>>>>>> payments. Secondly, PIR would not be able to provide in-kind support for
>>>>>>>>>> the technical infrastructure. If you prefer, you can allocate an additional
>>>>>>>>>> nominal sum to the project plan to take it to USD7000. In addition, a brief
>>>>>>>>>> report (a few pages max) would be expected for us to know how the funds
>>>>>>>>>> were utilized and provide a summary of the progress made.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If these points are okay with the NCSG, we can plan to proceed
>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and kind words, Ajith, and no problem in
>>>>>>>>>> waiting on our side - you were already very patient with us during this
>>>>>>>>>> whole process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>> Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>>>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>>>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> e CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 18 de dez. de 2024 às 10:15, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for sending this over. This looks great and
>>>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to run this internally and get back to you. But just a
>>>>>>>>>> heads up that there is a chance you may only hear back from me early in the
>>>>>>>>>> new year as many folks are PIR are taking extended breaks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajith,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding the final version of the proposal. All the ECs
>>>>>>>>>> (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) have already reviewed it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ~33h delay in sending it, couldn't finish the text
>>>>>>>>>> yesterday due to a few things that are happening here in Brazil and are
>>>>>>>>>> occupying a lot of my time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if there are any doubts or if any
>>>>>>>>>> complement/rectification is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>> Lawyer
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>
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