[NCSG-EC] [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Thu Jan 23 23:15:45 EET 2025 

Hi all,

We can use the NCUC bank account as I discussed with Milton.

Best,

Rafik

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:45 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Pedro,
>
> I got the task to follow up with him. I will share updates in coming days.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:37 Pedro de Perdigão Lana via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Just so we can follow up with Ajith - do we have an answer from Milton
>> regarding the bank account?
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
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>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 20:30, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Thank you, Caleb and Pedro. It’s now essential to standardize all our
>>> financial and accounting processes. I had a brief chat with Milton in
>>> Riyadh and mentioned that we would be reaching out to him for discussions
>>> on the financials and also to have that as part of our reporting.
>>>
>>> Rafik can reach out to him either to arrange for a meeting or
>>> get an update from him.
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>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:16 PM Caleb Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From what I understand, Milton handles that bank account and there is
>>>> also another signatory. While that is as it may, I Wisdom or former NCUC
>>>> Chair can provide information.
>>>> However, I think Rafik mentioned he willask Milton so that would solve
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 2:55 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> By the way, can someone clarify to me what is the actual status of
>>>>> this bank account, so I can properly answer Ajith regarding this point? I
>>>>> don't know if it is directly related to the NCUC or if it is under Milton's
>>>>> name, and then he administers it for the non-commercial community when
>>>>> needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>> Researcher
>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
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>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 17:41, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Rafik, I'll answer Ajith first thing on Monday, and we can
>>>>>> plan the initial workflow at our EC meeting. Should I message Milton, or
>>>>>> would it be better for you or Wisdom to do it, considering you are the
>>>>>> directly related chairs here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Juan and Wisdom that this can be watched by NCSG FC
>>>>>> (which will be have a task similar to an internal audit committee, as far
>>>>>> as I understand).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 10:31, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I think what is suggested by Ajith is fine and we can respond
>>>>>>> quickly to that. For the bank account, we can check with Milton, it is not
>>>>>>> an optimal situation but it can be the workaround for now.  We should share
>>>>>>> this with NCSG EC then the PC. at least it will be on the agenda of the EC
>>>>>>> call next week.
>>>>>>> About the other points, we can work on them and define a timeline
>>>>>>> for the delivery and write the scope of work for the fellow and how to
>>>>>>> follow-up for progress (I guess possible task for me to prepare a
>>>>>>> strawperson proposal and share it). The policy topics being collected are
>>>>>>> just started and will be refined and consultation will be continuous.
>>>>>>> Regarding the Finance Committee, we are still at the stage of formation and
>>>>>>> resuming its activities but it will be in the loop and informed about this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>> Le ven. 3 janv. 2025 à 23:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy new year! I was mostly off during the holidays, but coming
>>>>>>>> back to action today. I am also adding Amin to the loop, considering his
>>>>>>>> (now official) appointment to the NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm ok with everything that Ajith said. Do you agree with his last
>>>>>>>> message, so we can proceed? We will probably need to receive the funding
>>>>>>>> through the NCUC (NCSG does not have a bank account, right?), so we would
>>>>>>>> also need to confirm details with Milton.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After that, if you all believe this would be a good idea, we
>>>>>>>> possibly would also need an expanded NCSG leadership meeting to define the
>>>>>>>> topics that were left to be decided on after the approval of the project
>>>>>>>> (selection process, what would be our priority topics (do we ask the
>>>>>>>> community? do we use the list already formed in the email Rafik send about
>>>>>>>> policy priorities?), how would be the fellow relation with non-commercial
>>>>>>>> leadership, etc)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>> received by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em qui., 2 de jan. de 2025 às 02:51, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wishing you a very happy New Year!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope you had a good start to the new year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am writing to you with good news. We're happy to move forward
>>>>>>>>> with this project plan but could I suggest a few minor changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Firstly, we will disburse the lumpsum funds directly to the NCSG
>>>>>>>>> as we have always done and the NCSG would have to allocate and make
>>>>>>>>> payments. Secondly, PIR would not be able to provide in-kind support for
>>>>>>>>> the technical infrastructure. If you prefer, you can allocate an additional
>>>>>>>>> nominal sum to the project plan to take it to USD7000. In addition, a brief
>>>>>>>>> report (a few pages max) would be expected for us to know how the funds
>>>>>>>>> were utilized and provide a summary of the progress made.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If these points are okay with the NCSG, we can plan to proceed
>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:01 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and kind words, Ajith, and no problem in
>>>>>>>>> waiting on our side - you were already very patient with us during this
>>>>>>>>> whole process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wishing you happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>> Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>> e CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 18 de dez. de 2024 às 10:15, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for sending this over. This looks great and
>>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to run this internally and get back to you. But just a
>>>>>>>>> heads up that there is a chance you may only hear back from me early in the
>>>>>>>>> new year as many folks are PIR are taking extended breaks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:27 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajith,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding the final version of the proposal. All the ECs
>>>>>>>>> (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) have already reviewed it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ~33h delay in sending it, couldn't finish the text
>>>>>>>>> yesterday due to a few things that are happening here in Brazil and are
>>>>>>>>> occupying a lot of my time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know if there are any doubts or if any
>>>>>>>>> complement/rectification is needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>> Lawyer
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/oe3JCmZg1yCDr6qi3FlIR3TWg?domain=br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>
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