[NCSG-EC] [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal

Fri Jan 17 15:45:53 EET 2025

Hi Pedro,

I got the task to follow up with him. I will share updates in coming days.

Best,

Rafik

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:37 Pedro de Perdigão Lana via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Just so we can follow up with Ajith - do we have an answer from Milton
> regarding the bank account?
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
> <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),
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> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 20:30, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Thank you, Caleb and Pedro. It’s now essential to standardize all our
>> financial and accounting processes. I had a brief chat with Milton in
>> Riyadh and mentioned that we would be reaching out to him for discussions
>> on the financials and also to have that as part of our reporting.
>>
>> Rafik can reach out to him either to arrange for a meeting or
>> get an update from him.
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>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:16 PM Caleb Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I understand, Milton handles that bank account and there is
>>> also another signatory. While that is as it may, I Wisdom or former NCUC
>>> Chair can provide information.
>>> However, I think Rafik mentioned he willask Milton so that would solve
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 2:55 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By the way, can someone clarify to me what is the actual status of this
>>>> bank account, so I can properly answer Ajith regarding this point? I don't
>>>> know if it is directly related to the NCUC or if it is under Milton's name,
>>>> and then he administers it for the non-commercial community when needed.
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>> Researcher
>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
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>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 17:41, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Rafik, I'll answer Ajith first thing on Monday, and we can
>>>>> plan the initial workflow at our EC meeting. Should I message Milton, or
>>>>> would it be better for you or Wisdom to do it, considering you are the
>>>>> directly related chairs here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Juan and Wisdom that this can be watched by NCSG FC
>>>>> (which will be have a task similar to an internal audit committee, as far
>>>>> as I understand).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>> Researcher
>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
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>>>>>
>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 10:31, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I think what is suggested by Ajith is fine and we can respond
>>>>>> quickly to that. For the bank account, we can check with Milton, it is not
>>>>>> an optimal situation but it can be the workaround for now.  We should share
>>>>>> this with NCSG EC then the PC. at least it will be on the agenda of the EC
>>>>>> call next week.
>>>>>> About the other points, we can work on them and define a timeline for
>>>>>> the delivery and write the scope of work for the fellow and how to
>>>>>> follow-up for progress (I guess possible task for me to prepare a
>>>>>> strawperson proposal and share it). The policy topics being collected are
>>>>>> just started and will be refined and consultation will be continuous.
>>>>>> Regarding the Finance Committee, we are still at the stage of formation and
>>>>>> resuming its activities but it will be in the loop and informed about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>> Le ven. 3 janv. 2025 à 23:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy new year! I was mostly off during the holidays, but coming
>>>>>>> back to action today. I am also adding Amin to the loop, considering his
>>>>>>> (now official) appointment to the NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm ok with everything that Ajith said. Do you agree with his last
>>>>>>> message, so we can proceed? We will probably need to receive the funding
>>>>>>> through the NCUC (NCSG does not have a bank account, right?), so we would
>>>>>>> also need to confirm details with Milton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After that, if you all believe this would be a good idea, we
>>>>>>> possibly would also need an expanded NCSG leadership meeting to define the
>>>>>>> topics that were left to be decided on after the approval of the project
>>>>>>> (selection process, what would be our priority topics (do we ask the
>>>>>>> community? do we use the list already formed in the email Rafik send about
>>>>>>> policy priorities?), how would be the fellow relation with non-commercial
>>>>>>> leadership, etc)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>> received by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em qui., 2 de jan. de 2025 às 02:51, Ajith Francis <afrancis at pir.org>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Pedro,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wishing you a very happy New Year!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope you had a good start to the new year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am writing to you with good news. We're happy to move forward
>>>>>>>> with this project plan but could I suggest a few minor changes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Firstly, we will disburse the lumpsum funds directly to the NCSG as
>>>>>>>> we have always done and the NCSG would have to allocate and make payments.
>>>>>>>> Secondly, PIR would not be able to provide in-kind support for the
>>>>>>>> technical infrastructure. If you prefer, you can allocate an additional
>>>>>>>> nominal sum to the project plan to take it to USD7000. In addition, a brief
>>>>>>>> report (a few pages max) would be expected for us to know how the funds
>>>>>>>> were utilized and provide a summary of the progress made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If these points are okay with the NCSG, we can plan to proceed
>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:01 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and kind words, Ajith, and no problem in
>>>>>>>> waiting on our side - you were already very patient with us during this
>>>>>>>> whole process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wishing you happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>> Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
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>>>>>>>> , IODA
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>>>>>>>> e CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em qua., 18 de dez. de 2024 às 10:15, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for sending this over. This looks great and
>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm going to run this internally and get back to you. But just a
>>>>>>>> heads up that there is a chance you may only hear back from me early in the
>>>>>>>> new year as many folks are PIR are taking extended breaks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:27 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Hi Ajith,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding the final version of the proposal. All the ECs
>>>>>>>> (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) have already reviewed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ~33h delay in sending it, couldn't finish the text
>>>>>>>> yesterday due to a few things that are happening here in Brazil and are
>>>>>>>> occupying a lot of my time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know if there are any doubts or if any
>>>>>>>> complement/rectification is needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>> Lawyer
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>> , IODA
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>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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