[NCSG-EC] [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal

Mon Jan 27 02:37:48 EET 2025

Hello Pedro,
Let's have a discussion with Milton. I will ask Andrea to quickly reach out
to Milton  for 15 minutes discussions on the NCUC accounts

Kind regards

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 2:35 pm Pedro de Perdigão Lana, <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rafik!
>
> Do we already have the bank account data, or should I ask Milton directly?
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
> Researcher
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> Em qui., 23 de jan. de 2025 às 18:15, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We can use the NCUC bank account as I discussed with Milton.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:45 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>
>>> I got the task to follow up with him. I will share updates in coming
>>> days.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:37 Pedro de Perdigão Lana via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Just so we can follow up with Ajith - do we have an answer from Milton
>>>> regarding the bank account?
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (
>>>> GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),
>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
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>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 20:30, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Caleb and Pedro. It’s now essential to standardize all our
>>>>> financial and accounting processes. I had a brief chat with Milton in
>>>>> Riyadh and mentioned that we would be reaching out to him for discussions
>>>>> on the financials and also to have that as part of our reporting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik can reach out to him either to arrange for a meeting or
>>>>> get an update from him.
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>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:16 PM Caleb Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From what I understand, Milton handles that bank account and there is
>>>>>> also another signatory. While that is as it may, I Wisdom or former NCUC
>>>>>> Chair can provide information.
>>>>>> However, I think Rafik mentioned he willask Milton so that would
>>>>>> solve it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 2:55 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, can someone clarify to me what is the actual status of
>>>>>>> this bank account, so I can properly answer Ajith regarding this point? I
>>>>>>> don't know if it is directly related to the NCUC or if it is under Milton's
>>>>>>> name, and then he administers it for the non-commercial community when
>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 17:41, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Rafik, I'll answer Ajith first thing on Monday, and we can
>>>>>>>> plan the initial workflow at our EC meeting. Should I message Milton, or
>>>>>>>> would it be better for you or Wisdom to do it, considering you are the
>>>>>>>> directly related chairs here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with Juan and Wisdom that this can be watched by NCSG FC
>>>>>>>> (which will be have a task similar to an internal audit committee, as far
>>>>>>>> as I understand).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 10:31, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I think what is suggested by Ajith is fine and we can respond
>>>>>>>>> quickly to that. For the bank account, we can check with Milton, it is not
>>>>>>>>> an optimal situation but it can be the workaround for now.  We should share
>>>>>>>>> this with NCSG EC then the PC. at least it will be on the agenda of the EC
>>>>>>>>> call next week.
>>>>>>>>> About the other points, we can work on them and define a timeline
>>>>>>>>> for the delivery and write the scope of work for the fellow and how to
>>>>>>>>> follow-up for progress (I guess possible task for me to prepare a
>>>>>>>>> strawperson proposal and share it). The policy topics being collected are
>>>>>>>>> just started and will be refined and consultation will be continuous.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Finance Committee, we are still at the stage of formation and
>>>>>>>>> resuming its activities but it will be in the loop and informed about this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 3 janv. 2025 à 23:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Happy new year! I was mostly off during the holidays, but coming
>>>>>>>>>> back to action today. I am also adding Amin to the loop, considering his
>>>>>>>>>> (now official) appointment to the NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with everything that Ajith said. Do you agree with his
>>>>>>>>>> last message, so we can proceed? We will probably need to receive the
>>>>>>>>>> funding through the NCUC (NCSG does not have a bank account, right?), so we
>>>>>>>>>> would also need to confirm details with Milton.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After that, if you all believe this would be a good idea, we
>>>>>>>>>> possibly would also need an expanded NCSG leadership meeting to define the
>>>>>>>>>> topics that were left to be decided on after the approval of the project
>>>>>>>>>> (selection process, what would be our priority topics (do we ask the
>>>>>>>>>> community? do we use the list already formed in the email Rafik send about
>>>>>>>>>> policy priorities?), how would be the fellow relation with non-commercial
>>>>>>>>>> leadership, etc)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA
>>>>>>>>>> <https://ioda.org.br/> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>>> <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em qui., 2 de jan. de 2025 às 02:51, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you a very happy New Year!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you had a good start to the new year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am writing to you with good news. We're happy to move forward
>>>>>>>>>>> with this project plan but could I suggest a few minor changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, we will disburse the lumpsum funds directly to the NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>> as we have always done and the NCSG would have to allocate and make
>>>>>>>>>>> payments. Secondly, PIR would not be able to provide in-kind support for
>>>>>>>>>>> the technical infrastructure. If you prefer, you can allocate an additional
>>>>>>>>>>> nominal sum to the project plan to take it to USD7000. In addition, a brief
>>>>>>>>>>> report (a few pages max) would be expected for us to know how the funds
>>>>>>>>>>> were utilized and provide a summary of the progress made.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If these points are okay with the NCSG, we can plan to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and kind words, Ajith, and no problem in
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting on our side - you were already very patient with us during this
>>>>>>>>>>> whole process.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>>>>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>>>>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
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>>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>> e CC Brasil
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>>>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 18 de dez. de 2024 às 10:15, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for sending this over. This looks great and
>>>>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to run this internally and get back to you. But just a
>>>>>>>>>>> heads up that there is a chance you may only hear back from me early in the
>>>>>>>>>>> new year as many folks are PIR are taking extended breaks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas <
>>>>>>>>>>> jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>; Caleb
>>>>>>>>>>> Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F. Quéralt <
>>>>>>>>>>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajith,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding the final version of the proposal. All the ECs
>>>>>>>>>>> (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) have already reviewed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ~33h delay in sending it, couldn't finish the text
>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday due to a few things that are happening here in Brazil and are
>>>>>>>>>>> occupying a lot of my time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if there are any doubts or if any
>>>>>>>>>>> complement/rectification is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>>> Lawyer
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
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>>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
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>>>>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
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