[NCSG-EC] NCSG EC travel for ICANN81 (Istanbul)

[farzaneh badii]

Why are we asking this? ICANN gives three travel slots to NCSG EC. I am not
disputing that. How we allocate it is in collaboration with the
constituencies.thats our internal governance.  Which ICANN has no part in
and shouldn’t decide for us and never has.
If you want to insist on this, please go ahead and allocate the slot to
Tapani but let NCSG know. I have raised the issues and made the points. I
don’t think it’s advisable to spend much more time on this.


Farzaneh


On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:26 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
>
> Can you help clarify - are the 3 NCSG EC travel slots allocated to
> NCSG, or to NCUC/NPOC?
>
>         Julf
>
>
> On 25/06/2024 10:24, farzaneh badii wrote:
> > If that was the case then the governance of it should have been at the
> > NCSG level like the council is. But it is not. Each constituency
> > appoints their own reps and nobody can tell them how they allocated
> > their slots.
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:14 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com
> > <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     The way I see it is that the slots are intended for EC members, and
> once
> >     on the EC, the members really represent NCSG, not NCUC/NPOC.
> >
> >              Julf
> >
> >
> >     On 25/06/2024 09:14, farzaneh badii wrote:
> >      > I disagree with your interpretation Julf of the operating
> >     procedures. I
> >      > find it dangerous to allocate one constituency EC travel slot to
> >      > another, I also think as a matter of transparency we should
> >     announce the
> >      > travel slot available on the NCSG mailing list and ask NCUC
> >     members who
> >      > also could be the members of NPOC to apply. I don’t understand
> >     what the
> >      > problem is with opening this up. And no I don’t think NPOC NCSG
> >     EC reps
> >      > should decide for NCUC NCSG EC reps travel slots. We open it up,
> >     Tapani
> >      > can apply.
> >      >
> >      > Farzaneh
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:54 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com
> >     <mailto:julf at julf.com>
> >      > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     On 25/06/2024 07:48, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC wrote:
> >      >
> >      >      > I believe these two travel slots belong to NCUC NCSG EC
> >     reps. I
> >      >     believe
> >      >      > the best course of action here is to provide an
> >     opportunity for NCUC
> >      >      > members to apply.
> >      >
> >      >     Reading the NCSG Operating Procedures rules for NCSG
> >      >     Travel Slot Transfer,
> >      >
> >
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310
> <
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>
> <
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310
> <
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310
> >>
> >      >
> >      >     1. The NCSG receives the following travel slots per meeting:
> >      >
> >      >          a. At the annual Policy Forum and the annual Community
> >     Forum,
> >      >             the NCSG receives 6 slots for Council members, and 3
> >     slots
> >      >             for NCSG Executive Committee members, being a total
> of 9
> >      >             travel slots.
> >      >
> >      >          b. At the Annual General Meeting, the NCSG receives
> >     travel slots
> >      >             for all incoming and outgoing Councilors (a minimum
> >     of 6 slots
> >      >             and a maximum of 9 slots, depending on whether or not
> new
> >      >             persons are rotating into the Council) as well as 3
> >     travel
> >      >             slots to be allocated to the to NCSG Executive
> Committee.
> >      >
> >      >     So the 3 travel slots belong to the EC. Usually one slot is
> for
> >      >     the (incoming) chair, and one each to a NCUC and a NPOC rep.
> Only
> >      >     if EC members are unable to use the slots are they offered to
> >      >     the wider membership. In this case two of the four EC reps
> >      >     can use the slots - but they both happen to be from NPOC.
> >      >
> >      >              Julf
> >      >
> >
>
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