[NCSG-EC] NCSG EC travel for ICANN81 (Istanbul)

[Johan Helsingius]

Hi Andrea,

Can you help clarify - are the 3 NCSG EC travel slots allocated to
NCSG, or to NCUC/NPOC?

	Julf


On 25/06/2024 10:24, farzaneh badii wrote:
> If that was the case then the governance of it should have been at the 
> NCSG level like the council is. But it is not. Each constituency 
> appoints their own reps and nobody can tell them how they allocated 
> their slots.
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:14 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com 
> <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The way I see it is that the slots are intended for EC members, and once
>     on the EC, the members really represent NCSG, not NCUC/NPOC.
> 
>              Julf
> 
> 
>     On 25/06/2024 09:14, farzaneh badii wrote:
>      > I disagree with your interpretation Julf of the operating
>     procedures. I
>      > find it dangerous to allocate one constituency EC travel slot to
>      > another, I also think as a matter of transparency we should
>     announce the
>      > travel slot available on the NCSG mailing list and ask NCUC
>     members who
>      > also could be the members of NPOC to apply. I don’t understand
>     what the
>      > problem is with opening this up. And no I don’t think NPOC NCSG
>     EC reps
>      > should decide for NCUC NCSG EC reps travel slots. We open it up,
>     Tapani
>      > can apply.
>      >
>      > Farzaneh
>      >
>      >
>      > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:54 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com
>     <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>      > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     On 25/06/2024 07:48, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC wrote:
>      >
>      >      > I believe these two travel slots belong to NCUC NCSG EC
>     reps. I
>      >     believe
>      >      > the best course of action here is to provide an
>     opportunity for NCUC
>      >      > members to apply.
>      >
>      >     Reading the NCSG Operating Procedures rules for NCSG
>      >     Travel Slot Transfer,
>      >
>     https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310 <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310 <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>>
>      >
>      >     1. The NCSG receives the following travel slots per meeting:
>      >
>      >          a. At the annual Policy Forum and the annual Community
>     Forum,
>      >             the NCSG receives 6 slots for Council members, and 3
>     slots
>      >             for NCSG Executive Committee members, being a total of 9
>      >             travel slots.
>      >
>      >          b. At the Annual General Meeting, the NCSG receives
>     travel slots
>      >             for all incoming and outgoing Councilors (a minimum
>     of 6 slots
>      >             and a maximum of 9 slots, depending on whether or not new
>      >             persons are rotating into the Council) as well as 3
>     travel
>      >             slots to be allocated to the to NCSG Executive Committee.
>      >
>      >     So the 3 travel slots belong to the EC. Usually one slot is for
>      >     the (incoming) chair, and one each to a NCUC and a NPOC rep. Only
>      >     if EC members are unable to use the slots are they offered to
>      >     the wider membership. In this case two of the four EC reps
>      >     can use the slots - but they both happen to be from NPOC.
>      >
>      >              Julf
>      >
>