<div><div dir="auto">Why are we asking this? ICANN gives three travel slots to NCSG EC. I am not disputing that. How we allocate it is in collaboration with the constituencies.thats our internal governance. Which ICANN has no part in and shouldn’t decide for us and never has. </div><div dir="auto">If you want to insist on this, please go ahead and allocate the slot to Tapani but let NCSG know. I have raised the issues and made the points. I don’t think it’s advisable to spend much more time on this. </div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:26 AM Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Hi Andrea,<br>
<br>
Can you help clarify - are the 3 NCSG EC travel slots allocated to<br>
NCSG, or to NCUC/NPOC?<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
<br>
<br>
On 25/06/2024 10:24, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> If that was the case then the governance of it should have been at the <br>
> NCSG level like the council is. But it is not. Each constituency <br>
> appoints their own reps and nobody can tell them how they allocated <br>
> their slots.<br>
> <br>
> Farzaneh<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:14 AM Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> The way I see it is that the slots are intended for EC members, and once<br>
> on the EC, the members really represent NCSG, not NCUC/NPOC.<br>
> <br>
> Julf<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 25/06/2024 09:14, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> > I disagree with your interpretation Julf of the operating<br>
> procedures. I<br>
> > find it dangerous to allocate one constituency EC travel slot to<br>
> > another, I also think as a matter of transparency we should<br>
> announce the<br>
> > travel slot available on the NCSG mailing list and ask NCUC<br>
> members who<br>
> > also could be the members of NPOC to apply. I don’t understand<br>
> what the<br>
> > problem is with opening this up. And no I don’t think NPOC NCSG<br>
> EC reps<br>
> > should decide for NCUC NCSG EC reps travel slots. We open it up,<br>
> Tapani<br>
> > can apply.<br>
> ><br>
> > Farzaneh<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:54 AM Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On 25/06/2024 07:48, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > I believe these two travel slots belong to NCUC NCSG EC<br>
> reps. I<br>
> > believe<br>
> > > the best course of action here is to provide an<br>
> opportunity for NCUC<br>
> > > members to apply.<br>
> ><br>
> > Reading the NCSG Operating Procedures rules for NCSG<br>
> > Travel Slot Transfer,<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310</a> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310</a>> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310</a> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > 1. The NCSG receives the following travel slots per meeting:<br>
> ><br>
> > a. At the annual Policy Forum and the annual Community<br>
> Forum,<br>
> > the NCSG receives 6 slots for Council members, and 3<br>
> slots<br>
> > for NCSG Executive Committee members, being a total of 9<br>
> > travel slots.<br>
> ><br>
> > b. At the Annual General Meeting, the NCSG receives<br>
> travel slots<br>
> > for all incoming and outgoing Councilors (a minimum<br>
> of 6 slots<br>
> > and a maximum of 9 slots, depending on whether or not new<br>
> > persons are rotating into the Council) as well as 3<br>
> travel<br>
> > slots to be allocated to the to NCSG Executive Committee.<br>
> ><br>
> > So the 3 travel slots belong to the EC. Usually one slot is for<br>
> > the (incoming) chair, and one each to a NCUC and a NPOC rep. Only<br>
> > if EC members are unable to use the slots are they offered to<br>
> > the wider membership. In this case two of the four EC reps<br>
> > can use the slots - but they both happen to be from NPOC.<br>
> ><br>
> > Julf<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
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