[NCSG-EC] Ageia Densi (Argentina)

[Jean F. Quéralt]

Hi Caleb,

Does this mean that membership requires specific proof of ownership to be
verified?

How do you propose we do that?
I haven't seen a mention to this on the existing documentation.

Personally, I don't see a problem with having a domain parked (which in
this case is because they reacquired it hours ago).

As mentioned in my previous message, NPOC's charter requires ownership. It
says nothing about usage.

There are plenty of reasons why an organization may not be actively using
their domain. Sometimes they don't even want to have a website and just
want to protect themselves against impersonation. I've met orgs like that.

If we are going down the rabbit hole of actively verifying ownership, given
the current Lookup/RDRS status, we have a few options that we then need to
document properly.

Option 1)
We give some custom code that needs to be injected into the Public Info so
that it can be found through
https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

Option 2)
We give some custom code that needs to be injected in a TXT record that we
then query

Option 3)
We give some custom code that needs to be injected in a text file on the
root of their https server so we can query it (https://domain/NPOC-Code.txt)

There may be other options. These already cost more work for the EC.

The situation now is we need to decide what's our procedure or we'll get
stuck here.

Jean


On Sun, Jul 14, 2024, 06:39 Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I did a little more digging. I will be declining my support for AGEIA
> DENSI.
> The domain Jean mentioned is parked and until when it is active, we can't
> seem to find out. Ideally, I would grant this but given as with the usual
> procedure, more information is requested.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 2:13 PM Jean F. Quéralt via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been informed that the organization has reacquired their domain (
>> http://www.ageia.org/)
>> The website is not up although that should not be a consideration for us.
>>
>> For all I am concerned, I give my thumbs up for when/if AGEIA DENSI
>> requests to join NPOC without having to undergo a new membership
>> application.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jean F. Queralt
>> Founder & CEO - The IO Foundation <http://www.TheIOFoundation.org>
>> Book a meeting <http://TIOF.Click/BookJFQ> (30 minutes)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 01:20, Jean F. Quéralt <
>> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have confirmed that there is a procedural impasse that needs to be
>>> addressed before we register AGEIA DENSI as a member to NPOC.
>>>
>>> 1) First of all, it is to be noted that, as @Andrea Glandon
>>> <andrea.glandon at icann.org> has mentioned, I have not found
>>> reference/info on this type of procedure. It would appear we are playing it
>>> by ear, which is fine to a degree.
>>> I'd nonetheless recommend that moving forward we take the opportunity to
>>> write this case scenario somewhere. I can work on the language and submit a
>>> proposal.
>>>
>>> 2) The applicant, AGEIA DENSI, is not in a position at this very moment,
>>> to comply with one of the requirements to be a member of NPOC.
>>> As per NPOC Charter:
>>> 2. Membership > c. Requirements > 3.Is a registrant of a domain name.
>>>
>>> Currently, the organization does not own their previous domain anymore
>>> (and it would appear that no other domain either).
>>> After reaching out to the org's rep, I am confirmed this is a situation
>>> they are actively looking to resolve.
>>> Once that's done, I'll be OK with them joining. Meanwhile, I rather
>>> apply procedure and put the topic on standby.
>>>
>>> Also, @Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org> can you clarify if
>>> they have
>>> a) Requested information about whether is it possible
>>> b) Formally requested to join NPOC
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jean F. Queralt
>>> Founder & CEO - The IO Foundation <http://www.TheIOFoundation.org>
>>> Book a meeting <http://TIOF.Click/BookJFQ> (30 minutes)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 at 01:45, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello NCSG EC,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The organization Ageia Densi is already an approved NCSG and NCUC
>>>> member. They would like to add NPOC to their membership. I have looked at
>>>> the charter and do not see anything specific regarding this situation. How
>>>> should this situation be handled? Do they have to go through the regular
>>>> application process?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>>
>>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>>
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>
>>>> *Skype ID:*  acglandon76
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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