<div dir="auto">Hi Caleb,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Does this mean that membership requires specific proof of ownership to be verified? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How do you propose we do that? </div><div dir="auto">I haven't seen a mention to this on the existing documentation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Personally, I don't see a problem with having a domain parked (which in this case is because they reacquired it hours ago). </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As mentioned in my previous message, NPOC's charter requires ownership. It says nothing about usage. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are plenty of reasons why an organization may not be actively using their domain. Sometimes they don't even want to have a website and just want to protect themselves against impersonation. I've met orgs like that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we are going down the rabbit hole of actively verifying ownership, given the current Lookup/RDRS status, we have a few options that we then need to document properly. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Option 1)</div><div dir="auto">We give some custom code that needs to be injected into the Public Info so that it can be found through</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup">https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Option 2)</div><div dir="auto">We give some custom code that needs to be injected in a TXT record that we then query</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Option 3)</div><div dir="auto">We give some custom code that needs to be injected in a text file on the root of their https server so we can query it (<a href="https://domain/NPOC-Code.txt">https://domain/NPOC-Code.txt</a>)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There may be other options. These already cost more work for the EC.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The situation now is we need to decide what's our procedure or we'll get stuck here.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jean</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2024, 06:39 Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone,<div><br></div><div>I did a little more digging. I will be declining my support for AGEIA DENSI. </div><div>The domain Jean mentioned is parked and until when it is active, we can't seem to find out. Ideally, I would grant this but given as with the usual procedure, more information is requested.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 2:13 PM Jean F. Quéralt via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I've been informed that the organization has reacquired their domain (<a href="http://www.ageia.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.ageia.org/</a>)</div><div>The website is not up although that should not be a consideration for us.</div><div><br></div><div>For all I am concerned, I give my thumbs up for when/if AGEIA DENSI requests to join NPOC without having to undergo a new membership application.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Jean F. Queralt</div><div>Founder & CEO - <a href="http://www.TheIOFoundation.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">The IO Foundation</a></div><div><a href="http://TIOF.Click/BookJFQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Book a meeting</a> (30 minutes)<br></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 01:20, Jean F. Quéralt <<a href="mailto:JFQueralt@theiofoundation.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">JFQueralt@theiofoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I have confirmed that there is a procedural impasse that needs to be addressed before we register AGEIA DENSI as a member to NPOC.</div><div><br></div><div>1) First of all, it is to be noted that, as <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_-3325086677358832431m_7084843227495838114m_5421308527621228801plusReplyChip-3" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@Andrea Glandon</a> has mentioned, I have not found reference/info on this type of procedure. It would appear we are playing it by ear, which is fine to a degree.</div><div>I'd nonetheless recommend that moving forward we take the opportunity to write this case scenario somewhere. I can work on the language and submit a proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>2) The applicant, AGEIA DENSI, is not in a position at this very moment, to comply with one of the requirements to be a member of NPOC.</div><div>As per NPOC Charter:</div><div>2. Membership > c. Requirements > 3.Is a registrant of a domain name.</div><div><br></div><div>Currently, the organization does not own their previous domain anymore (and it would appear that no other domain either).</div><div>After reaching out to the org's rep, I am confirmed this is a situation they are actively looking to resolve.</div><div>Once that's done, I'll be OK with them joining. Meanwhile, I rather apply procedure and put the topic on standby.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_-3325086677358832431m_7084843227495838114m_5421308527621228801plusReplyChip-2" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@Andrea Glandon</a> can you clarify if they have </div><div>a) Requested information about whether is it possible</div><div>b) Formally requested to join NPOC</div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Jean F. Queralt</div><div>Founder & CEO - <a href="http://www.TheIOFoundation.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">The IO Foundation</a></div><div><a href="http://TIOF.Click/BookJFQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Book a meeting</a> (30 minutes)<br></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 at 01:45, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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