[NCSG-EC] NCSG EC Approvals

Mon Oct 10 21:02:21 EEST 2022

It appears to me that at least in some cases the data in NCSG CRM is
also incorrect (e.g., Sam LanFranco is still listed as NPOC member).

As for the "duplication of votes" issue, unless NCSG charter has been
changed without my noticing, there's no rule against a person being
both an individual member and the representative of an organization at
the same time and even voting in both roles in the same election.

It is a concern, however, when approving new members if there's a
reason to suspect that their organization is a one-person thing, that
is, the organization's interest in joining is actually just one person
there trying to gain extra votes. Similar concern arises with
individual applicants who are already organizational members'
representatives. So it is good that Bruna was being diligent, even if
in this particular case there apparently were no such problems.

As a disclosure of sorts I should note that I am both an individual
member of NCSG and NCUC as well as Effi's representative in NPOC.
I do not get to vote twice in any election, however, because Effi
has another representative in NCSG and NCUC. (Incidentally, our
current CiviCRM setup doesn't cope with this very well.)

Anyway, I trust the mailing list issue will be promptly sorted out
once Andrea returns from her undoubtedly well-deserved vacation.

Tapani

On Oct 10 12:19, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote:
> 
> That issue is with staff (on vacation) who mentioned she has still has to
> do some few things on the CRM to extract the data. She has promised to do
> it as soon as she is back from vacation.
> 
> However, for NPOC members, we have thier emails so I just Bcc them in
> members communication.
> 
> Caleb Ogundele
> 
> ________________
> 
> Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device.
> 
> Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 12:16 PM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Caleb, they're still not on our email lists, like I just said.
> >
> > -Raoul
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2022, 20:12 Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele, <
> > muyiwacaleb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> @Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> ,
> >>
> >> We have gone past this stage and those members mentioned are now NPOC
> >> members.
> >>
> >> The issues were only mentioned for due diligence.
> >>
> >> Her last email to NCSG already posted that they are approved.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> On Mon., Oct. 10, 2022, 12:05 p.m. Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC, <
> >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey there,
> >>>
> >>> Bruna wanted to "double-check" some of the members that she thinks are
> >>> still NPOC members, but they're not. That goes for at least Ioana, (she had
> >>> her NGO change into a commercial entity) and Sam Lanfranco, whose org also
> >>> had their rep (Sam) pull out from NPOC. Sam's an NCSG member and Ioana is
> >>> re-applying to NPOC, so most likely at least those aren't "duplicates" you
> >>> need to worry about. I don't know about Akinremi but I'd imagine there's a
> >>> similar story there also.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps in clarifying the underlying issue of why NPOC members
> >>> still aren't added to our email lists. One of these members applied very
> >>> soon almost one year ago, so we need to get this sorted ASAP, please.
> >>>
> >>> -Raoul
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 17:59, Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC <
> >>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I couldn't help but notice that some of the names listed above are
> >>>> already NCSG members. Could we double check whether all the organisation
> >>>> reps we have just approved aren't already members and the condition under
> >>>> which they joined ? My main concern is the duplication of votes and this
> >>>> possibly raising us a future problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see names like Ioana, Sam Lanfranco and Taiwo Peter Akinremi and
> >>>> already recognize them as members - at least at the individual capacity -
> >>>> so can we double check all the names before announcing them to the list ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Bruna
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 10:52 PM Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC <
> >>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello all!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please find below the individual members who were approved. They all
> >>>>> also applied to NCUC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Aris Ignacio arisignacio at yahoo.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jaewon Son jaewon_son at korea.ac.kr
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Emmanuel Kwasi Gadusu ekgadasu at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Zach Edwards zach at victorymedium.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stephen Dakyi nanayawbotar at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pedro Frederico Braum de Mello pedro.mello at noauth.xyz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marcel Kruger icann at 2krueger.de
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mouloud Khelif mouloud.khelif at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Butera Mpira butred22 at hotmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nthabiseng Pule npule at researchictafrica.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cielito Saravia cielitosaravia at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Janis Wong janiswongmedia at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The following organizations were approved.  I have placed next to them
> >>>>> if they also applied to NPOC and/or NCUC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> India Internet Foundation. In the CRM this ones show 2 official
> >>>>> representatives. Anand Raje anand at iifon.org & Anupam Agrawal
> >>>>> anupam at iifon.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AGORA Debate Association-NPOC. Ioana Stupariu ioana_stupariu at yahoo.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Society for the Advancement of Science in Africa-Sam Lanfranco
> >>>>> sam at lanfranco.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Caucasian Journal-NPOC & NCUC-Kaffka Alexander
> >>>>> pr2 at caucasianjournal.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Africa Rapporteur Network-NPOC-Taiwo Peter Akinremi
> >>>>> info at africarapporteur.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The IO Foundation-NPOC & NCUC-Jean F. Queralt
> >>>>> contact at theiofoundation.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paradigm Initiative-NCUC. Adeboye Adegoke adegokeadeboye at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Dear Governments Organization-NPOC. Emmanuel Ogu oguemc at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a meeting on Monday to get assistance with CiviCRM.  I want to
> >>>>> make sure that I am using it correctly and know how it works.  If for some
> >>>>> reason I get additional information on any of the above, I will let the EC
> >>>>> know. Also, just let me know when I am clear to add the new members to the
> >>>>> different group email lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Andrea Glandon*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Policy Operations Coordinator
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Skype ID:*  acglandon76
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> NCSG-EC mailing list
> >>>>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> >>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
> >>>>
> >>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
> >>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum
> >>>> Berlin für Sozialforschung (WZB) <https://wzb.eu/en>
> >>>>
> >>>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
> >>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
> >>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
> >>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
> >>>> bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu <bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu>* and
> >>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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