[EC-NCSG] Some clarification on NCSG applicants

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Hi Rudi, all,

The reason Sawera's application was left pending was that the domain
they gave in the application, sawera.org, belongs to someone else,
apparently a non-commercial entity.

If that was an error or the domain has been captured, it would be
handled by our normal process: requesting clarification or correction
from them by email and if the reply is satisfactory (as it apparently
would be here), approve them in our next meeting, presumably next week.

Is there some specific reason to rush the process in this case?

In principle I have no objection to processing these by email,
but the process should not be ad-hoc, it should agreed on
in a formal meeting, either individually (approve someone
conditionally, as we've occasionally done, but not in this case)
or as a general rule that can be applied as appropriate.

Of course a formal meeting can also be done by email,
as has occasionally been done by NCUC EC for example,
and formalities don't need to be heavy: just declare
it a meeting and write minutes after decisions are
agreed on. If we really need to approve Sawera before
Dublin, we could do this now.

Tapani

On Oct 12 11:05, Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:

> Hi Rudi,
> 
> I am not sure to understand the argument here but let me try to rephrase:
> the right webiste is sawera.pk and not sawera.org? so wondering here  why
> they filled the form a .org domain? are you saying that they had sawera.org
> previously and lost it?
> btw to be clear, we are not blocking applications, we are trying to review
> and check eligibility. the applicant get the chance to clarify and the
> application to be reviewed again. if we have all needed information, we can
> do the review for pending applicants via the mailing list if EC members are
> happy with that.
> @Maryam did you contact the applicants already to check with him last week?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> 2015-10-12 7:02 GMT+09:00 Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>:
> 
> > Dear NCSG EC members,
> >
> > I did some research on the case of SAWERA.
> > SAWERA : website is at sawera.pk, the other one at sawera.org is, as we
> > often have discovered, captured. It is not normal a .org is attributed to a
> > commercial entity.
> >
> > > Sawera, Inc. : Registered Name Sawera, Inc.
> > > Company Description : Sawera, Inc. is a business registered in Portland,
> > OR. The primary business activity of this firm is Personal Credit
> > Institutions.
> > > Business Activities : SIC Code 6141
> >
> > It would be unfair to block organisations ( small NGO?s ) becoming member
> > of NPOC based on the above. For NPOC they fulfil the requirements and have
> > certainly value to add to the work NPOC has to deliver : a better policy
> > for the NGO?s registering for a domain name and enable them to maintain the
> > ownership. This is one of the biggest issues we already highlighted through
> > our first EU survey. We all recognize the power of the big ones (names) and
> > have to deliver support to the smaller ones : they have the same rights as
> > have the big names !
> >
> > So, I would ask the NCSG EC herewith to accept the application of SAWERA
> > based on the fact that on Internet all information about the SAWERA
> > organisation in Pakistan.
> >
> > Rudi Vansnick
> > Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
> > www.npoc.org
> >
> > rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> > Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
> > Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32