[EC-NCSG] pending batch of NCSG membership applications
Robin Gross
robin
Sun Feb 10 23:18:35 EET 2013
Thanks to those NCSG-EC members who have evaluated these pending
membership applications and voted on them. I've tried to take the
comments and votes from the various emails and put them into the
PENDING spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?
key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing
The above link is only a summary but shows where we need input from
and what are the specific issues with each application to be
resolved. If I've missed anything, apologies, and please add it in
to the document.
A couple times we had comments like "no info available". But the
info is not in the summary file above. Rather, the info is all in
the application data input by the applicant and that huge file is
always here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?
key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing
So be sure to look at the two lists in parallel since the first is
only a summary of what is immediately before us, and the second is
the actual and complete membership application data, so includes much
more info than the first.
Also remember that when an individual applies under criteria 2, they
are not required to have a noncommercial domain or be affiliated with
a noncommercial organization to be eligible to join NCSG.
So I'd really appreciate it if NCSG-EC members could get their final
comments in on these applications in the next day. Otherwise, the
ones that no one has objected to will be deemed to be accepted. We
can't keep them hanging forever. ;-)
Thanks again for your time going through these applications! It
really is a good thing that we are growing so fast!
Best,
Robin
On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
> Dear Robin, Milton and Rafik,
>
> You will find below an exchange with Tapani which convinced me to
> APPROVE the individual membership for Virpi Kauko in light of new
> info not on the application
>
> Cheers, Alain
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: ncsg applicants
> To: Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>
>
> Hi Tapani,
>
> Sorry we had no time to chat in LA...
>
> Thanks a lot for briefing me on this and also for sharing your
> opinion on the partial inadequacy of the NCSG membership
> application form for individuals - it also has weaknesses on the
> institutional side. We are awaiting the outcome of a request to
> ICANN for the staff to redesign and handle the administrative
> function of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership data base under the
> direction of the EC-NCSG/NCUC/NPOC. I still find it difficult to
> approve an individual membership without knowing a little bit about
> the person... but I may be out to lunch on that... however in light
> of the info on the two public sites you shared with me, I would now
> wish to APPROVE.
>
> See other comments below embedded in your text.
>
> May I forward this back to the EC-NCSG to indicate my change of
> decision? If you prefer keeping this private, that is also fine
> with me.
>
> Cheers, Alain
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Tapani Tarvainen
> <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> Hi Alain,
>
> I noticed your message in ec-ncsg list
> (http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/ec-ncsg/2013-February/
> 000299.html)
> and in particular this:
>
> "2 - *Virpi Kauko* - url non-fonctional ????? no other info
> available... NOT
> APPROVED"
>
> Is there a requirement somewhere that the domain is used for www?
>
> I do not think so.
>
> Note that the applicant is an individual, not an organization, and
> as it happens, kauko.org is used for email only, it has no A record.
>
> There are subdomains under it used for websites, but mostly not public
> ones - it is a family domain, intended primarily for family members'
> private communication. A quintessential example of non-commercial use,
> in my opinion.
>
> I agree
>
> Two public websites under it are http://virpi.kauko.org
> and especially http://v.kauko.org - neither in English,
> but presumably that can't really be a requirement either.
>
> These websites were not mentioned in the application and my quick
> google search did not lead me there...hence I had zero info to
> decide to approve membership or not... Once I glanced at the two
> websites you sent me, it became easy for me to approve membership...
>
> It would seem the application form is not very well designed
> for individuals, and there's no good process for asking applicants
> for additional info.
>
> If and when GNSO Secretariat agrees to handle the admin tasks for
> us, this problem should be solved
>
> (Yes, as whois would reveal I'm behind this, starting to do outreach
> for ncuc.)
>
> As NPOC is very focused about increasing ICANN outreach to the NFP/
> NGO world, I'm sure we will work closely together. Already Wolfgang
> has made a concrete proposal for doing that, after he read the NPOC
> 2013 Outreach Plan (I say ambitious because it is 90% unfunded as
> we speak.
>
> By the way, it was nice to meet you in LA, even though we had
> really no time to chat.
>
> Maybe in Beijing we will have a bit more time?
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
>
>
> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
> www.gkpfoundation.org
> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> Skype: alain.berranger
>
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