ICANN75: NCSG Meeting with the ICANN Board
Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele
muyiwacaleb at GMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 14 17:16:00 EEST 2022
Hi Johan,
I want to take a different view that it is a GNSO issue when it comes to
NomCom rebalancing.
If GNSO has not taken a proactive approach, then let's ask the board except
NCUC will do a rotation of the NomCom seat with NPOC then we can do
internal constituency rebalancing.
The last I checked, BC is not ready to part with the extra seat they have
and so it's good we make our case clear enough.
Caleb
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 4:40 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
> Hi Bruna,
>
> Yes, 'volunteer burnout' has been on our agenda with them for quite
> a while, but things like the board-driven Policy Transition Program
> Pilot shows that they have listened, so I think we owe it to them
> to discuss it, and give them input and feedback.
>
> The NomCom rebalancing, on the other hand, now seems to be primarily
> a GNSO Council issue.
>
> The recycling of veterans is definitely an issue (just look at the
> most recent NomCom appointments).
>
> Julf
>
>
> On 14/09/2022 11:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> > Hello, all,
> >
> > Thank you all so much for your contributions. The following questions
> > are the ones we submitted to Board-ops team:
> >
> > 1. /What is the Board’s take on the phenomenon of ICANN recycling
> > veterans for leadership positions. Does the Board think it’s
> > beneficial for the community to have the usual suspects rotating
> > between leadership roles of different stakeholder groups? How do we
> > fix this if we agree this is a problem? How does the Board imagine
> > its role in assisting the community to recruit more new blood?____/
> > 2. /Is there a possibility of rebalancing the NomCom?____/
> > 3. /What efforts are channeled to keep the people in the community from
> > volunteer fatigue?/
> >
> >
> > To be honest, I am a little unsatisfied with the final set of questions
> > because these are either a. questions that cant necessarily be solved by
> > the board or b. things we have addressed with them before. Topics like
> > 'volunteer burnout' have been on our agenda with them for more than just
> > one meeting and I really wouldn't like for NCSG to sound like a broken
> > radio repeating the same problems over and over again; added to that I
> > think its a real shame no one managed to suggest at least one policy
> > topic for our discussion and trust that the debate as its proposed
> > sounds a little empty.
> >
> > In case anyone would like to suggest at least one policy topic I can
> > still try to see with board-ops whether theres a chance of changing one
> > of our topics. But in order to do so we need yall to suggest something.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruna
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 12:13 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar
> > <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > Good observations. I can understand why you put the focus on career
> > progression but I think significant focus needs to also be put on
> > the category where participation is heavily motivated by simply
> > doing good and personal satisfaction. Which like you suggest, this
> > category will neither build career capital nor will it provide any
> > resources for ICANN participation.
> >
> > Those in this category may have active careers, but their careers
> > are parallel to their volunteering in ICANN. Their career does not
> > benefit in any way from their participation in ICANN. The employers
> > of those in this category are often not interested in ICANN's work
> > and do not support them in any way, even with leave off work to
> > travel to an ICANN meeting.
> >
> > Therefore, those in this category will certainly benefit and can
> > only be in a position to volunteer if "NCSG resources were based on
> > participation and ICANN knowledge". I think this makes the
> > "difficult challenge" and proposed solution a bit more complex. Not
> > recognising that this category of volunteers also heavily depend on
> > ICANN resources risk eliminating them from the pool as well.
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Tomslin
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Sept 2022, 22:53 Sam Lanfranco, <lanfran at yorku.ca
> > <mailto:lanfran at yorku.ca>> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to add a couple of comments here. For years I ran
> > the listserv for the International Society for Third Sector
> > Research (ISTR). There is more and more research on volunteerism
> > and on volunteer burnout. It is a serious problem, and several
> > patterns and trends are clear. Older volunteers are dwindling
> > through exhaustion or simply dying. Younger volunteers are less
> > forthcoming, for reasons less well understood. Is that due to a
> > generational behavioral shift or the changing demands of careers
> > and volunteer work?
> >
> > Of relevance to ICANN is that volunteers are motivated by three
> > drivers: (1) doing good; (2) personal satisfaction; (3) career
> > advancement. Within ICANN’s multistakeholder model, outside
> > NCSG, a good number of ICANN participants are engaged as part of
> > their paid job (a form of career advancement). Inside NCSG young
> > participants join for all three reasons, with many seeing
> > participation to (hopefully) build career capital. This can be
> > particularly true for participants from areas where career
> > opportunities are limited. Outside NCSG most ICANN participants
> > have support for participation, either as an expense account or
> > an ability to cost ICANN participation against professional
> > income. Inside NCSG resource constraints are more binding and
> > ICANN support is usually essential, and more than just a “perk”.
> >
> > If one thinks of the elected and appointed positions within
> > ICANN as “leadership roles” my view is that the NCSG volunteer
> > participation challenge boils down to two things, one difficult
> > and one relatively easy. The difficult one is resources.
> > Resources from where (ICANN?) and to whom do they go? Looking
> > over the past decade of NCSG activity suggests that many of
> > those who are active have careers (lawyers, academics,
> > consultants) where ICANN participation builds career capital,
> > and where careers provide some resources for ICANN
> > participation. The challenge here becomes that allocating NCSG
> > resources (travel) based on participation and ICANN knowledge
> > favors those already best positioned to participate. The “old
> > guard” gets the perks. This may become more complicated as ICANN
> > seems to drift toward a narrower Technical Internet Governance
> > (TIG) scope of policy.
> >
> > The easier part, again in my view, would be a major expansion of
> > mentorship within ICANN. That could proceed in several ways and
> > build on what is there in ICANN already. One idea would be to
> > make elected positions include a mentorship responsibility, and
> > a process for selecting appropriate mentees. Mentee positions
> > would come with the additional resources to make participation
> > possible and meaningful. Mentee positions could also result in
> > greater career capital benefits, and increase the probability of
> > continued ICANN participation. One step in that direction might
> > be ICANN funding an in depth study of the experiences of ICANN
> > Fellowship participants (and others), both in terms of their
> > continued ICANN engagement, in terms of how ICANN work has fit
> > into their career progress, and in terms of the hard choices
> > they must make about volunteering.
> >
> > Lastly, I have put the focus on career progress here because we
> > can assume all participants are intent on “doing good” and that
> > “personal satisfaction” is a blend of what one does inside ICANN
> > and how that relates to one’s work life. I look forward to the
> > ideas and observations of others.
> >
> > Sam Lanfranco
> >
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>> On Behalf Of Johan
> > Helsingius
> > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 5:45 AM
> > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: ICANN75: NCSG Meeting with the ICANN Board
> >
> > > What level of effort is channeled to keep the people in the
> > community
> > > not to get tired. Same for those that have indepth culture
> > and ICANN
> > > experience that are exhausted and not actively participating
> > in PDP.
> >
> > Good point, Peter, I think volunteer burnout is a very serious
> > issue that needs to be addressed.
> >
> > Julf
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > */Bruna Martins dos Santos
> > /*
> >
> > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
> > von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
> >
> > Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum
> > Berlin für Sozialforschung (WZB) <https://wzb.eu/en>
> >
> > Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
> > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
> > <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
> > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
> >
> > Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
> > bruna.martinsantos
> > _bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu
> > <mailto:bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu>_ and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>
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*Caleb Ogundele*
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Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
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