Proposed modification of NCSG Strategic Review Working Group

[Poncelet Jokkolabs Banjul]

+ 1 Stephanie,

Totally concur

Peace

Poncelet

On Thursday, October 29, 2020, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:

> Bruna and Lou put together a great survey.... response was low but the
> results were interesting.  People need to get something out of this
> experience, especially young people who have careers to build and lives to
> get organized.  The task of finding small, bite sized tasks for people to
> do, while mentoring them if necessary, is pretty onerous.  Nevertheless,
> giving folks a good, enriching job to do and good feedback when they do it
> seems to be a cornerstone of volunteerism.  I am hoping we can reorganize
> our EC positions to enable this kind of reward system to be developed.
> Chairs hVe too much to do to take this on.
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 28, 2020, at 18:20, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> EXTERNAL EMAIL:  Treat content with extra caution.
> Thanks for this Farzi.
>
> You're absolutely right, Renata did a splendid job with outreach and that
> contributed significantly to my involvement in NCSG. However, I also want
> to say even after I had that knowledge of how to get involved from the
> outreach, it still felt like (and was) an overwhelming effort was required
> to get up to speed and contribute substantially. It was only after I
> figured out what I'll gain from the involvment (in my case intellectual
> gain) that I truly began putting the effort required and I believe this
> goes back to your first point.
>
> Regarding the question of just asking people to tell why they don't
> engage, I believe Bruna and Louise did some work on this before and if I am
> not mistaken, the response rate was very low as well. If getting feedback
> from folks is itself that challenging, then I think we'll need some good
> "outside the box" ways to identify what the issues are and solutions to
> them.
>
> A question to think about is whether the forwarding of emails with no word
> about how to get engaged which you alluded to, is a symptom of an
> overworked few or simply bad leadership.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
> On Wed., 28 Oct. 2020, 04:28 farzaneh badii, <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruna,
>>
>> Sorry this is off topic but since we are still discussing why people
>> don't engage, I'd like to give you some background. Though you have your
>> own valuable experience, it might help. We can also start another thread.
>>
>> People can be inactive at ICANN and NCSG for the following reasons:
>> 1. they don't know what will come off it.
>> 2. DNS and ICANN work is not an important part of Internet governance
>> anymore. People want to do exciting stuff and not work on such a narrow
>> field. We should just accept that.
>> 3.They don't know where to start from.
>> These are what come to my mind. But I wonder why we are guessing, how
>> about we just ask people why they don't engage!
>>
>> One thing that is crucial which Renata did so well was to encourage new
>> people to get involved by working on little tasks that doesn't take a lot
>> of their time. Renata's outreach skills and work were effective and
>> excellent. Yes we had perhaps too many outreach sessions  but because of
>> her work we have active members like you, Tomslin, Shahul and others that
>> contribute regularly.
>>
>> Another issue is to tell people how they can get engaged. Forwarding
>> emails with no word about how they can get engaged or what the email even
>> means, is like sending busy people a piece in cuneiform asking them to
>> contribute. I know you might use google translate nowadays for anything,
>> but we need to decrease the transaction costs of volunteering and increase
>> its benefit so that people can engage.
>>
>> Mentorship, talking to interested NCSG members one-on-one  and asking
>> them what they want to work on are some other suggestions.
>>
>> And again we should remember that NCSG is a voluntary group working on a
>> really narrow issue that can be less exciting. Voting doesn't cost people
>> too much. Doing a ton of work for a voluntary group should be goal oriented
>> and people should know what they will achieve (intellectual achievements
>> are harder to sell, I admit). Having people become members and not be
>> active is normal even in very important fields. Just like the elections,
>> where some people's civic participation is limited to voting and a minority
>> actively campaign for someone and engage in debates. But we need to revive
>> the minority of volunteers at NCSG and I am sure that we can achieve that
>> under your leadership.
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:29 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello NCSG,
>>>
>>> In light of the discussions hosted on both NCUCs and NCSGs open meetings
>>> at ICANN69, @Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> and
>>> myself worked on some amendments to the proposed charter for the Strategic
>>> Review Working Group.
>>>
>>> The charter can be found here:  https://docs.google.com/
>>> document/d/19IZOoZVn-SmvZ2peYYULmQ6dTNAMEjb63jWCtOmGCJc/edit
>>>
>>> And, in case any of you is still interested in joining these efforts,
>>> please email @Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>,
>>> Maryam, @Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer at icann.org> or myself.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bruna Santos
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:27 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on our discussion today during the ICANN meeting, I would propose
>>>> to modify the Working Group charter to say this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The task of the Working Group will be to explore the issues raised by
>>>> an attempt to merge the two constituencies into an integrated Noncommercial
>>>> Stakeholder Group. The group will conduct a thorough fact-finding operation
>>>> to address:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Whether or not double constituencies creates duplicate
>>>> administrative work
>>>>
>>>> 2. The impact of a merger on ICANN travel support and other resource
>>>> availability
>>>>
>>>> 3. The charter changes that would have to be made to implement a merger
>>>>
>>>> 4. Whether diverse policy perspectives would be reduced by a merger
>>>>
>>>> 5. Any other relevant issues related to a merger it uncovers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>>>>
>>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>>>
>>>> School of Public Policy
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> @boomartins
>>>
>>

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