FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK: Draft Terms of Reference for Community Representatives Group regarding IRP Standing Panel Selection

Stephanie E Perrin stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA
Wed Aug 26 09:41:49 EEST 2020


Thanks very much for your thoughtful comments Raphael, they are very 
much appreciated.

cheers Stephanie

On 2020-08-26 3:52 a.m., Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix wrote:
> Hi Stephanie, all
>
> Briefly:
> I. It's a formal point, but they should make certain edits when 
> referencing the Bylaws. In the quote here "process" is used several 
> times but references two different matters (the overall process of 
> constituting a panel and the process of choosing the people who will 
> choose the panelists)
> III. I think the 1st one is fine.
> III.D. the group should determine its own chair. That way the 
> chair will be more legitimate. See below...
> IV.A. recorded and transcribed yes, then released when appropriate, so 
> maybe after the panel decision?
> IV.B. Consensus yes, also yes to chair designation, and no minority 
> statement as I don't think there should be a report for a panel 
> constitution. This is not a policy discussion. Of course it's highly 
> political and potentially contentious, much like policy, and 
> adjudicatory processes do have minority statements in many "legal 
> cultures," and they serve a useful purpose. But in these cases the 
> authority of the adjudicatory process is strongly entrenched (think a 
> supreme court). The authority of an IRP panel decision, judging by 
> previous ones, is, let's say, modest... To the extent that panelists 
> are better chosen than before (that is, more representative of the 
> community) I think it's fair to insulate them a little bit now. But 
> that's an important matter, and I understand others may disagree.
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 4:02 AM Stephanie E Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
>     I would appreciate receiving your feedback on this draft terms of
>     reference for the Community Representatives Group for the IRP
>     (Independent Review Process) at your earliest convenience.  This
>     is an important procedure so we should try to focus on it to make
>     sure our interests will be reflected. I have put the draft Tors in
>     a google doc here:
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qxm_TbdOp7ldKY0be34he95Xp-wT5q19ZOvZbMGcjrQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
>     Warning: This is heavily procedural.  Possibly not everyone's cup
>     of tea, but an important procedure to think about, for those who
>     are interested in these matters. Relevant discussions and links below.
>
>     Stephanie Perrin
>
>     NCSG Chair.
>
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: 	FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK: Draft Terms of Reference for
>     Community Representatives Group regarding IRP Standing Panel
>     Selection
>     Date: 	Tue, 25 Aug 2020 01:18:30 +0000
>     From: 	Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>
>     To: 	Susie Johnson <susie.johnson at icann.org>
>     <mailto:susie.johnson at icann.org>, Manal Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg>
>     <mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg>, Austin, Donna
>     <Donna.Austin at team.neustar> <mailto:Donna.Austin at team.neustar>,
>     aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com <mailto:aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com>
>     <aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com> <mailto:aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com>,
>     oscar at lacnic.net <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net> <oscar at lacnic.net>
>     <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>, Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>
>     <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>, Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>     <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>, maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>, Fred Baker <fred at isc.org>
>     <mailto:fred at isc.org>, rod at rodrasmussen.com
>     <mailto:rod at rodrasmussen.com> <rod at rodrasmussen.com>
>     <mailto:rod at rodrasmussen.com>, aheineman at godaddy.com
>     <mailto:aheineman at godaddy.com> <aheineman at godaddy.com>
>     <mailto:aheineman at godaddy.com>, Selli, Claudia
>     <claudia.selli at intl.att.com> <mailto:claudia.selli at intl.att.com>,
>     Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>, Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>     <wuknoben at gmail.com> <mailto:wuknoben at gmail.com>, Stephanie E
>     Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Bruna Martins dos
>     Santos <bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM> <mailto:bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM>,
>     Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org> <mailto:joankerr at fbsc.org>, David
>     Olive <david.olive at icann.org> <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>,
>     Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>
>     <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>, Elizabeth Le
>     <elizabeth.le at icann.org> <mailto:elizabeth.le at icann.org>, Amy
>     Stathos <amy.stathos at icann.org> <mailto:amy.stathos at icann.org>
>
>
>
>     Dear community leaders,
>
>     Please find attached for your and your community groups’ review
>     and feedback a draft set of Terms of Reference concerning the
>     Community Representatives Group that will be tasked to work with
>     ICANN org and an external consultant to select a slate of nominees
>     to the IRP Standing Panel for confirmation by the ICANN Board.
>     This was ICANN org’s action item from the call we all had on 27
>     July and we look forward to your feedback.
>
>     You will see that the draft incorporates the suggestions and
>     feedback from that call and includes a number of suggestions and
>     questions in square brackets that await your further consideration
>     and decision. In addition, there is a suggested timeline on Page 2
>     that we hope will be helpful to you in determining the level of
>     commitment that can be expected of members of the Group. While the
>     actual cadence, timing and duration of the Group’s meetings remain
>     to be determined, we think that the initial work will likely
>     require several hours of commitment per week.
>
>     We look forward to receiving your input so that we can finalize
>     the Terms of Reference as soon as possible following the end of
>     the Expression of Interest period for potential panelists on 31
>     August. To that end, we propose organizing another call with you
>     to discuss your feedback either next week or as soon as possible.
>     At the next call, we also hope that you will be able to decide on
>     how you wish to populate the Group so that we can proceed with the
>     selection work without delay. We will circulate a Doodle poll
>     shortly to determine a day and time for this next call.
>
>     Thank you again for your attention and guidance on this important
>     matter.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Mary
>
>     *From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>
>     *Date: *Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 18:29
>     *To: *Susie Johnson <susie.johnson at icann.org>
>     <mailto:susie.johnson at icann.org>, Manal Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg>
>     <mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg>, "Austin, Donna"
>     <Donna.Austin at team.neustar> <mailto:Donna.Austin at team.neustar>,
>     "aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com" <mailto:aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com>
>     <aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com> <mailto:aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com>,
>     "oscar at lacnic.net" <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net> <oscar at lacnic.net>
>     <mailto:oscar at lacnic.net>, Katrina Sataki <katrina at nic.lv>
>     <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>, "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>     <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>, "maureen.hilyard at gmail.com"
>     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>, Fred Baker <fred at isc.org>
>     <mailto:fred at isc.org>, "rod at rodrasmussen.com"
>     <mailto:rod at rodrasmussen.com> <rod at rodrasmussen.com>
>     <mailto:rod at rodrasmussen.com>, "aheineman at godaddy.com"
>     <mailto:aheineman at godaddy.com> <aheineman at godaddy.com>
>     <mailto:aheineman at godaddy.com>, "Selli, Claudia"
>     <claudia.selli at intl.att.com> <mailto:claudia.selli at intl.att.com>,
>     Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>, Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>     <wuknoben at gmail.com> <mailto:wuknoben at gmail.com>, Stephanie E
>     Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Bruna Martins dos
>     Santos <bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM> <mailto:bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM>,
>     Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org> <mailto:joankerr at fbsc.org>, David
>     Olive <david.olive at icann.org> <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>,
>     Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>
>     <mailto:Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>, Elizabeth Le
>     <elizabeth.le at icann.org> <mailto:elizabeth.le at icann.org>, Amy
>     Stathos <amy.stathos at icann.org> <mailto:amy.stathos at icann.org>
>     *Subject: *Notes and Recording from the IRP Standing Panel
>     Discussion with Community Leaders
>
>     Dear community leaders,
>
>     Thank you to everyone for continuing to work with ICANN org on
>     moving forward with the community’s important role and the
>     appropriate process for selecting nominees to the IRP Standing
>     Panel. Thank you also to those chairs who were able to attend the
>     call yesterday. Attached for your reference as well as
>     consultation with your respective community groups are: (1) the
>     notes and action items from the call; and (2) the chat transcript
>     during the call.
>
>     The actual call recording can be accessed here:
>     https://tinyurl.com/y3qvrv2o.
>
>     As always, please feel free to contact me or any of my ICANN
>     colleagues included on this email thread with your questions and
>     comments. Thank you!
>
>     Cheers
>
>     Mary
>
>     *From: *susie.johnson at icann.org <mailto:susie.johnson at icann.org>
>     *When: *13:00 - 14:00 July 27, 2020
>     *Subject: *IRP Standing Panel: Discussion with Community Leaders
>     *Location: *Zoom: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753
>
>     Dear Community Leaders:
>
>     Please find below the call details for the IRP Standing Panel:
>     Discussion with Community Leaders conference call:
>
>     Time: Jul 27, 2020 17:00 UTC; 10:00 am PT; 1:00 pm DT
>
>     Join Zoom Meeting
>
>     https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753
>
>     Meeting ID: 979 6653 4753
>
>     Passcode: IRPStand-1
>
>     If joining by phone:
>
>     Meeting ID: 979 6653 4753
>
>     Passcode: 9380203992
>
>     Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/abx8Ojg02a
>     <https://icann.zoom.us/u/abx8Ojg02a>
>
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