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<p>Thanks very much for your thoughtful comments Raphael, they are
very much appreciated.</p>
<p>cheers Stephanie<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-08-26 3:52 a.m., Raphael
Beauregard-Lacroix wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie, all
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<div>Briefly:</div>
<div>I. It's a formal point, but they should make certain edits
when referencing the Bylaws. In the quote here "process" is
used several times but references two different matters (the
overall process of constituting a panel and the process of
choosing the people who will choose the panelists)</div>
<div>III. I think the 1st one is fine. </div>
<div>III.D. the group should determine its own chair. That way
the chair will be more legitimate. See below...</div>
<div>IV.A. recorded and transcribed yes, then released when
appropriate, so maybe after the panel decision? </div>
<div>IV.B. Consensus yes, also yes to chair designation, and no
minority statement as I don't think there should be a report
for a panel constitution. This is not a policy discussion. Of
course it's highly political and potentially contentious, much
like policy, and adjudicatory processes do have minority
statements in many "legal cultures," and they serve a useful
purpose. But in these cases the authority of the adjudicatory
process is strongly entrenched (think a supreme court). The
authority of an IRP panel decision, judging by previous ones,
is, let's say, modest... To the extent that panelists are
better chosen than before (that is, more representative of the
community) I think it's fair to insulate them a little bit
now. But that's an important matter, and I understand others
may disagree. </div>
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<div>Have a nice day, </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 4:02
AM Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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<p>I would appreciate receiving your feedback on this draft
terms of reference for the Community Representatives Group
for the IRP (Independent Review Process) at your earliest
convenience. This is an important procedure so we should
try to focus on it to make sure our interests will be
reflected. I have put the draft Tors in a google doc
here:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qxm_TbdOp7ldKY0be34he95Xp-wT5q19ZOvZbMGcjrQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qxm_TbdOp7ldKY0be34he95Xp-wT5q19ZOvZbMGcjrQ/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p>Warning: This is heavily procedural. Possibly not
everyone's cup of tea, but an important procedure to think
about, for those who are interested in these matters.
Relevant discussions and links below.<br>
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<p> </p>
<p>Stephanie Perrin</p>
<p>NCSG Chair.<br>
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<td>FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK: Draft Terms of Reference
for Community Representatives Group regarding IRP
Standing Panel Selection</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date:
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<td>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 01:18:30 +0000</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From:
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<td>Mary Wong <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mary.wong@icann.org></a></td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To:
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<td>Susie Johnson <a href="mailto:susie.johnson@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><susie.johnson@icann.org></a>,
Manal Ismail <a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a>,
Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>,
<a href="mailto:aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com</a>
<a href="mailto:aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:oscar@lacnic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">oscar@lacnic.net</a> <a href="mailto:oscar@lacnic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><oscar@lacnic.net></a>,
Katrina Sataki <a href="mailto:katrina@nic.lv" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><katrina@nic.lv></a>,
Drazek, Keith <a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>
<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><maureen.hilyard@gmail.com></a>,
Fred Baker <a href="mailto:fred@isc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><fred@isc.org></a>,
<a href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rod@rodrasmussen.com</a>
<a href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rod@rodrasmussen.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><aheineman@godaddy.com></a>,
Selli, Claudia <a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>,
Heather Forrest <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a>,
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><wuknoben@gmail.com></a>,
Stephanie E Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM></a>,
Joan Kerr <a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><joankerr@fbsc.org></a>,
David Olive <a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><david.olive@icann.org></a>,
Samantha Eisner <a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Samantha.Eisner@icann.org></a>,
Elizabeth Le <a href="mailto:elizabeth.le@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><elizabeth.le@icann.org></a>,
Amy Stathos <a href="mailto:amy.stathos@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><amy.stathos@icann.org></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear
community leaders,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please
find attached for your and your community groups’
review and feedback a draft set of Terms of
Reference concerning the Community Representatives
Group that will be tasked to work with ICANN org and
an external consultant to select a slate of nominees
to the IRP Standing Panel for confirmation by the
ICANN Board. This was ICANN org’s action item from
the call we all had on 27 July and we look forward
to your feedback.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">You
will see that the draft incorporates the suggestions
and feedback from that call and includes a number of
suggestions and questions in square brackets that
await your further consideration and decision. In
addition, there is a suggested timeline on Page 2
that we hope will be helpful to you in determining
the level of commitment that can be expected of
members of the Group. While the actual cadence,
timing and duration of the Group’s meetings remain
to be determined, we think that the initial work
will likely require several hours of commitment per
week. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We
look forward to receiving your input so that we can
finalize the Terms of Reference as soon as possible
following the end of the Expression of Interest
period for potential panelists on 31 August. To that
end, we propose organizing another call with you to
discuss your feedback either next week or as soon as
possible. At the next call, we also hope that you
will be able to decide on how you wish to populate
the Group so that we can proceed with the selection
work without delay. We will circulate a Doodle poll
shortly to determine a day and time for this next
call. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank
you again for your attention and guidance on this
important matter.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Mary</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">Mary Wong <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mary.wong@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 18:29<br>
<b>To: </b>Susie Johnson <a href="mailto:susie.johnson@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><susie.johnson@icann.org></a>,
Manal Ismail <a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a>,
"Austin, Donna" <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>,
<a href="mailto:aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><aftab.siddiqui@gmail.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:oscar@lacnic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"oscar@lacnic.net"</a> <a href="mailto:oscar@lacnic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><oscar@lacnic.net></a>,
Katrina Sataki <a href="mailto:katrina@nic.lv" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><katrina@nic.lv></a>,
"Drazek, Keith" <a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><maureen.hilyard@gmail.com></a>,
Fred Baker <a href="mailto:fred@isc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><fred@isc.org></a>,
<a href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"rod@rodrasmussen.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rod@rodrasmussen.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"aheineman@godaddy.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><aheineman@godaddy.com></a>,
"Selli, Claudia" <a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>,
Heather Forrest <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a>,
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><wuknoben@gmail.com></a>,
Stephanie E Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM></a>,
Joan Kerr <a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><joankerr@fbsc.org></a>,
David Olive <a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><david.olive@icann.org></a>,
Samantha Eisner <a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Samantha.Eisner@icann.org></a>,
Elizabeth Le <a href="mailto:elizabeth.le@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><elizabeth.le@icann.org></a>,
Amy Stathos <a href="mailto:amy.stathos@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><amy.stathos@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Notes and Recording from the IRP
Standing Panel Discussion with Community Leaders</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear
community leaders,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank
you to everyone for continuing to work with ICANN
org on moving forward with the community’s important
role and the appropriate process for selecting
nominees to the IRP Standing Panel. Thank you also
to those chairs who were able to attend the call
yesterday. Attached for your reference as well as
consultation with your respective community groups
are: (1) the notes and action items from the call;
and (2) the chat transcript during the call.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">The
actual call recording can be accessed here: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/y3qvrv2o" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://tinyurl.com/y3qvrv2o</a>.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">As
always, please feel free to contact me or any of my
ICANN colleagues included on this email thread with
your questions and comments. Thank you!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Mary</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:susie.johnson@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">susie.johnson@icann.org</a><br>
<b>When: </b>13:00 - 14:00 July 27, 2020 <br>
<b>Subject: </b>IRP Standing Panel: Discussion
with Community Leaders<br>
<b>Location: </b>Zoom: <a href="https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear
Community Leaders: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please
find below the call details for the IRP Standing
Panel: Discussion with Community Leaders
conference call: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Time:
Jul 27, 2020 17:00 UTC; 10:00 am PT; 1:00 pm DT </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Join
Zoom Meeting </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://icann.zoom.us/j/97966534753</a> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Meeting
ID: 979 6653 4753 </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Passcode:
IRPStand-1 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">If
joining by phone: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Meeting
ID: 979 6653 4753 </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Passcode:
9380203992 </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Find
your local number: <a href="https://icann.zoom.us/u/abx8Ojg02a" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://icann.zoom.us/u/abx8Ojg02a</a> </span></p>
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