Council Member replacement
Amr Elsadr
aelsadr at ICANNPOLICY.NINJA
Thu Dec 19 07:46:37 EET 2019
Hi Farell,
Your declared country of residence is totally up to you. My advice to you is to choose your designated country of residence based on your understanding of your own personal circumstances, rather than circumstances that are convenient to ICANN staff or to anybody else.
Best of luck to you.
Thanks.
Amr
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Ekue Farell Folly <farell at BENIN2POINT0.ORG> wrote:
>
> Dear Stephanie,
>
> This field of primary country of residence has never been clear to me and I intentionnal left it unfilled it. I dont think it should be seen as not "accurate" but not "complete" instead, since it does not seem mandatory to be filled (so doesn't any other). I still have two residencies where I pay taxes, have house at one place and leave in the other.
>
> When asked by the GNSO Council staff two months ago, I put the information of German residency in the field of additional info.
> I really don't want to change something else until it is mandatory or if someone could really explain to me what "primary country of residence" means (with criteria). During my mandate I will mostly travel from Munich but it could also happen that I travel from my home country.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Wed, 2019-12-18 at 18:06 +0000, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying, Farell. It may be more convenient for staff to consider you as representing EU, particularly for travel, but it is up to you. You can certainly change it back on your SOI if you wish. Just let us know so that we can be clear in the upcoming decision making on Farzi's replacement.
>> Kind regards,
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> On 2019-12-18 02:50, Ekue Farell Folly wrote:
>>
>>> Thx James for this reminder.
>>>
>>> During election, I applied as from the AFRICA region in my statement. However, during the Montreal meeting the GNSO staff told me that the country of residence fits more to be displayed and be announced when people want to refer to me (also for travels). I guess that is why ICANN GNSO page displays EU for my region as it seems to be the country of residence (Germany) that matters for them. However, I also think that one could choose between two countries of residence, and especially tell them (GNSO Council support staff) to change back to AF... again this needs to be clarified i.o.t know what they need or intend to display on that page.
>>>
>>> Refering to Tapani's message, I also always thought that it is the country of origin that matters, otherwise; we could have all councillors from one single continent while they all live or declare residence on another continent.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 12:42 +0000, James Gannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apart from Farrell (Can you please update your SOI to indicate a region Farrell) all of the regions on the GNSO Council site below match the declared SOIs.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> James Gannon
>>>>
>>>> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 12:40
>>>> To: James Gannon <lists at ICANN.GURU>, "NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>>>> Subject: Re: Council Member replacement
>>>>
>>>> You are correct James...my apologies for assuming the other page was correct. I think we must check and make sure, I will go back in the records and verify which was declared in the respective elections, because there seem to be more than one inaccuracy in here.
>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>> On 2019-12-17 07:32, James Gannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:
>>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)
>>>>> Elsa Saade (SOI) – NA – (AGM 2020)
>>>>> Tatiana Tropina (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
>>>>> Martin Silva Valent (SOI) – LAC (AGM 2020)
>>>>> Farell Folly (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
>>>>> Farzaneh Badii (SOI) – NA (AGM 2021)
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> James Gannon
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>
>>>>> My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie
>>>>> pointed to, I see the regions as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Africa: Rafik Dammak and Farell Folly
>>>>> Asia-Pacific: Elsa Saade
>>>>> Europe: Tatiana Tropina
>>>>> Latin America: Martin Pablo Valent
>>>>>
>>>>> Cf. https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted
>>>>> accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and
>>>>> precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple
>>>>> regions to choose which they choose to declare (I oversimplified in
>>>>> saying residence is the determining factor), and I presumed the above
>>>>> page to indicate Rafik has chosen to declare Africa according to his
>>>>> native Tunisia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon (lists at icann.guru) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on eligibility concerns.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---
>>>>> > James Gannon
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi James,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live and pay
>>>>> > taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this purpose.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG charter,
>>>>> > the situation is briefly like this:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable
>>>>> > candidates (as there already are two Africans). This is a hard
>>>>> > rule, "To the maximum extent possible", but as noted it would
>>>>> > not exclude you if you are North American resident now.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American
>>>>> > would be preferred over others and a woman over a man. These are
>>>>> > softer rules, "Reasonable efforts", so other qualifications could
>>>>> > be more important.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tapani
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (kaswesha at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I am currently settled in North America but I am not very sure whether I am
>>>>> > > eligible. Somebody advise.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Regards;
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > James Njoroge Gitau
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>> > > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her council seat,
>>>>> > > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee to select a
>>>>> > > > replacement until the next election takes place in summer 2020. In order
>>>>> > > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in the position.
>>>>> > > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam Bakoshi, before
>>>>> > > > the 28th of December. For your interest, the relevant section of the
>>>>> > > > Charter concerning these circumstances is paragraph 2, section 3.2 (copied
>>>>> > > > below). For information about the current composition of the council see
>>>>> > > > https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg. We
>>>>> > > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North America.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Stephanie Perrin
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Section 3.2 para 2
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable to finish his
>>>>> > > > or her term, the NCSG EC will appoint a temporary GNSO Council
>>>>> > > > Representative to serve until the next regularly scheduled election as
>>>>> > > > provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP. At that time, a new GNSO Council
>>>>> > > > Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of the vacated
>>>>> > > > term, if any.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> --
>
> Best regards
>
> Ekue Farell FOLLY
>
> PhD Researcher, Computer Security
> Bundeswehr University Munich
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