Council Member replacement

Poncelet Ileleji pileleji at YMCA.GM
Thu Dec 19 07:50:17 EET 2019 

+1

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 12:49, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:

> Hi Farell,
>
> Your declared country of residence is totally up to you. My advice to you
> is to choose your designated country of residence based on your
> understanding of your own personal circumstances, rather than circumstances
> that are convenient to ICANN staff or to anybody else.
>
> Best of luck to you.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Ekue Farell Folly <farell at BENIN2POINT0.ORG>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Stephanie,
>
> This field of primary country of residence has never been clear to me and
> I intentionnal left it unfilled it. I dont think it should be seen as not
> "accurate" but not "complete" instead, since it does not seem mandatory to
> be filled (so doesn't any other). I still have two residencies where I pay
> taxes, have house at one place and leave in the other.
>
> When asked by the GNSO Council staff two months ago, I put the information
> of German residency in the field of additional info.
> I really don't want to change something else until it is mandatory or if
> someone could really explain to me what "primary country of residence"
> means (with criteria). During my mandate I will mostly travel from Munich
> but it could also happen that I travel from my home country.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Wed, 2019-12-18 at 18:06 +0000, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying, Farell.  It may be more convenient for staff to
> consider you as representing EU, particularly for travel,  but it is up to
> you.  You can certainly change it back on your SOI if you wish.  Just let
> us know so that we can be clear in the upcoming decision making on Farzi's
> replacement.
> Kind regards,
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2019-12-18 02:50, Ekue Farell Folly wrote:
>
> Thx James for this reminder.
>
>
> During election, I applied as from the AFRICA region in my statement.
> However, during the Montreal meeting the GNSO staff told me that the
> country of residence fits more to be displayed and be announced when people
> want to refer to me (also for travels). I guess that is why ICANN GNSO page
> displays EU for my region as it seems to be the country of residence
> (Germany) that matters for them. However, I also think that one could
> choose between two countries of residence, and especially tell them (GNSO
> Council support staff) to change back to AF... again this needs to be
> clarified i.o.t know what they need or intend to display on that page.
>
>
> Refering to Tapani's message, I also always thought that it is the country
> of origin that matters, otherwise; we could have all councillors from one
> single continent while they all live or declare residence on another
> continent.
>
>
> On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 12:42 +0000, James Gannon wrote:
>
> Apart from Farrell (Can you please update your SOI to indicate a region
> Farrell) all of the regions on the GNSO Council site below match the
> declared SOIs.
>
> ---
> James Gannon
>
> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 12:40
> To: James Gannon <lists at ICANN.GURU>, "NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Council Member replacement
>
> You are correct James...my apologies for assuming the other page was
> correct.  I think we must check and make sure, I will go back in the
> records and verify which was declared in the respective elections, because
> there seem to be more than one inaccuracy in here.
> cheers Stephanie
> On 2019-12-17 07:32, James Gannon wrote:
>
> For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO
> SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council
>
> Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)
> Elsa Saade (SOI) – NA – (AGM 2020)
> Tatiana Tropina (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> Martin Silva Valent (SOI) – LAC (AGM 2020)
> Farell Folly (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> Farzaneh Badii (SOI) – NA (AGM 2021)
>
> ---
> James Gannon
>
> On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi James,
>
>     My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie
>     pointed to, I see the regions as follows:
>
>     Africa: Rafik Dammak and Farell Folly
>     Asia-Pacific: Elsa Saade
>     Europe: Tatiana Tropina
>     Latin America: Martin Pablo Valent
>
>     Cf. https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg
>
>     If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted
>     accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and
>     precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple
>     regions to choose which they choose to declare (I oversimplified in
>     saying residence is the determining factor), and I presumed the above
>     page to indicate Rafik has chosen to declare Africa according to his
>     native Tunisia.
>
>     Tapani
>
>
>     On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon (lists at icann.guru) wrote:
>
>     > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our
> councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on
> eligibility concerns.
>     >
>     > ---
>     > James Gannon
>     >
>     > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi James,
>     >
>     >     Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.
>     >
>     >     It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live
> and pay
>     >     taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this
> purpose.
>     >
>     >     Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG
> charter,
>     >     the situation is briefly like this:
>     >
>     >     * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable
>     >     candidates (as there already are two Africans). This is a hard
>     >     rule, "To the maximum extent possible", but as noted it would
>     >     not exclude you if you are North American resident now.
>     >
>     >     * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American
>     >     would be preferred over others and a woman over a man. These are
>     >     softer rules, "Reasonable efforts", so other qualifications could
>     >     be more important.
>     >
>     >     Tapani
>     >
>     >     On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (
> kaswesha at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > I am currently settled in North America but I am not very sure
> whether I am
>     >     > eligible. Somebody advise.
>     >     >
>     >     > Regards;
>     >     >
>     >     > James Njoroge Gitau
>     >     >
>     >     > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <
>     >     > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her
> council seat,
>     >     > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee
> to select a
>     >     > > replacement until the next election takes place in summer
> 2020.  In order
>     >     > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in
> the position.
>     >     > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam
> Bakoshi, before
>     >     > > the 28th of December.  For your interest, the relevant
> section of the
>     >     > > Charter concerning these circumstances is paragraph 2,
> section 3.2 (copied
>     >     > > below).  For information about the current composition of
> the council see
>     >     > >
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg.  We
>     >     > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North
> America.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > Stephanie Perrin
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > > Section 3.2 para 2
>     >     > >
>     >     > > In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable
> to finish his
>     >     > > or her term, the NCSG EC will appoint a temporary GNSO
> Council
>     >     > > Representative to serve until the next regularly scheduled
> election as
>     >     > > provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP.  At that time, a new
> GNSO Council
>     >     > > Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of
> the vacated
>     >     > > term, if any.
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Tapani Tarvainen
>     >
>
>     --
>     Tapani Tarvainen
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards
>
> *Ekue Farell FOLLY*
>
> PhD Researcher, Computer Security
> Bundeswehr University Munich
>
>
>

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