[Public Comments]: Draft Comment on Open Data Initiative Datasets and Metadata
Anriette Esterhuysen
anriette at APC.ORG
Fri Jul 27 16:53:48 EEST 2018
Thanks to all who worked on this. Here is a related reading which I
recommend highly:
https://manypossibilities.net/2018/05/open-telecom-data-moving-forward/
Anriette
On 27/07/2018 18:43, Elsa S wrote:
> Super, thanks Ayden! And again, thanks to everyone who gave the draft
> a look, your additions made it as complete as possible given the
> timeframe!
>
> E.
> —
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:42 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Elsa,
>
> Just a small clarification, the other changes were made in
> "suggestion mode." However they were accepted by the Policy
> Committee Chair already (perhaps before you saw them?), as they
> also have editing privileges for the document.
>
> The deadline for the submission of this comment to ICANN org is
> 23:59 UTC tonight, so it is already with the Policy Committee for
> review. We have been looking over the document for a few days now
> and discussing, hence why some edits were already accepted.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 18:13, Elsa S <elsa.saade at GMAIL.COM
> <mailto:elsa.saade at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>> Hey Ayden,
>>
>> Thanks! I accepted some of the suggestions earlier today! What I
>> was referring to was the added parts to the doc which I think are
>> extremely important to keep an eye out for. Especially the list
>> of extra data that we need and cannot find in the inventory for
>> instance. It would have been good for members to check them out
>> (there’s a small discussion happening on there, if we should add
>> all the items currently in the list or not). And in the history,
>> changes can be found most times but the person who made the
>> changes would almost always be "anonymous". Which would make it
>> hard to ask for fast clarification. That’s what I was referring to :)
>>
>> But thanks for offering to help! It’s appreciated.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> —
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:09 PM Ayden Férdeline
>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Elsa,
>>
>> All of the changes that I made to the document were in
>> ‘suggestion mode’, but someone else with editing privileges
>> has already accepted some of them. (I have received
>> notifications from Google that this has happened.) In the
>> history tab, however, you can turn them back on to see what
>> changes have been made to the document and which have been
>> accepted by other editors. Please let me know off-list if
>> you’d like me to show you how to see these edits.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 18:00, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com
>> <mailto:elsa.saade at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>
>>> Reviewing the comment and suggestions as we speak. Many of
>>> the changes were not mapped. Could we for future comments'
>>> reference, map our changes in order for us to make sure we
>>> have a good progress report on the google doc? It would be
>>> best I think.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your efforts, and thank you all for all the
>>> comments and engagement. We'll be sending this to the Policy
>>> Committee for their review by the end of this working day.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Elsa
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:27 AM, Ayden Férdeline
>>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Raoul,
>>>
>>> I will forward your message to the Policy Committee to
>>> review.
>>>
>>> My initial reaction is, I’m not sure why we would need
>>> to make the case for the benefits of open data, when
>>> ICANN has already committed to making it available?
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 27 Jul 2018, at 12:23, Raoul Plommer
>>>> <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for being late in returning to this, but could we
>>>> add a sentence or just a small list on why opening data
>>>> is commendable?
>>>>
>>>> Open data offers benefits in many areas and ICANN could
>>>> gain from:
>>>>
>>>> * Transparency and democratic control
>>>> * Participation
>>>> * Self-empowerment
>>>> * Improved or new private products and services
>>>> * Innovation
>>>> * Improved efficiency of services
>>>> * Improved effectiveness of services
>>>> * Impact measurement of policies
>>>> * New knowledge from combined data sources and
>>>> patterns in large data volumes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Raoul
>>>>
>>>> On 26 July 2018 at 13:54, Ayden Férdeline
>>>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>
>>>> I have made some rather substantial (proposed)
>>>> edits to this statement now. In response to your
>>>> comment, I have cited recommendation 10.5 of the
>>>> Accountability and Transparency Review 2, and
>>>> called for ICANN to provide non-commercial
>>>> stakeholders with the resources required in order
>>>> to interrogate and analyse this data.
>>>>
>>>> The Policy Committee is looking over this comment
>>>> now (hence my last minute edits), but if there are
>>>> any additional comments/suggestions that anyone
>>>> has, we would still be able to consider them if
>>>> they are added to the document today:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 23 July 2018 9:02 PM, Sam Lanfranco
>>>> <lanfran at YORKU.CA <mailto:lanfran at YORKU.CA>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> While I fully endorse as much open data access for
>>>>> ICANN as is possible, without compromising
>>>>> personal privacy, I am sobered by the general view
>>>>> that in Open Government Data most of the benefits
>>>>> go to the deep pocketed stakeholders (corporate
>>>>> entities) that have the financial resources to
>>>>> mine the data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Giving civil society access, without it having
>>>>> research resources, leaves it dependent on those
>>>>> few academics who will mine the data in the public
>>>>> interest, or when it just occasionally catches
>>>>> data outliers that raise concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam L.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Raphaël
>>>>>> Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Elsa, hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you and the team for taking the time
>>>>>> for drafting the comment. I find that the
>>>>>> points raised in the comment are indeed
>>>>>> relevant! From a broader perspective, it is
>>>>>> good that ICANN has plans to publish more
>>>>>> data - I can see a lot of potential for
>>>>>> qualitative and quantitative research here in
>>>>>> various fields of social sciences!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Elsa Saade
>>> Consultant
>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>
> --
> --
>
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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