[Public Comments]: Draft Comment on Open Data Initiative Datasets and Metadata

[Elsa S]

Super, thanks Ayden! And again, thanks to everyone who gave the draft a
look, your additions made it as complete as possible given the timeframe!

E.
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:42 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi Elsa,
>
> Just a small clarification, the other changes were made in "suggestion
> mode." However they were accepted by the Policy Committee Chair already
> (perhaps before you saw them?), as they also have editing privileges for
> the document.
>
> The deadline for the submission of this comment to ICANN org is 23:59 UTC
> tonight, so it is already with the Policy Committee for review. We have
> been looking over the document for a few days now and discussing, hence why
> some edits were already accepted.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 18:13, Elsa S <elsa.saade at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hey Ayden,
>
> Thanks! I accepted some of the suggestions earlier today! What I was
> referring to was the added parts to the doc which I think are extremely
> important to keep an eye out for. Especially the list of extra data that we
> need and cannot find in the inventory for instance. It would have been good
> for members to check them out (there’s a small discussion happening on
> there, if we should add all the items currently in the list or not). And in
> the history, changes can be found most times but the person who made the
> changes would almost always be "anonymous". Which would make it hard to ask
> for fast clarification. That’s what I was referring to :)
>
> But thanks for offering to help! It’s appreciated.
>
> Best,
>
> Elsa
> —
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:09 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Elsa,
>>
>> All of the changes that I made to the document were in ‘suggestion mode’,
>> but someone else with editing privileges has already accepted some of them.
>> (I have received notifications from Google that this has happened.) In the
>> history tab, however, you can turn them back on to see what changes have
>> been made to the document and which have been accepted by other editors.
>> Please let me know off-list if you’d like me to show you how to see these
>> edits.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 18:00, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> Reviewing the comment and suggestions as we speak. Many of the changes
>> were not mapped. Could we for future comments' reference, map our changes
>> in order for us to make sure we have a good progress report on the google
>> doc? It would be best I think.
>>
>> Thank you for your efforts, and thank you all for all the comments and
>> engagement. We'll be sending this to the Policy Committee for their review
>> by the end of this working day.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:27 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Raoul,
>>>
>>> I will forward your message to the Policy Committee to review.
>>>
>>> My initial reaction is, I’m not sure why we would need to make the case
>>> for the benefits of open data, when ICANN has already committed to making
>>> it available?
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Jul 2018, at 12:23, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for being late in returning to this, but could we add a sentence
>>> or just a small list on why opening data is commendable?
>>>
>>> Open data offers benefits in many areas and ICANN could gain from:
>>>
>>>    - Transparency and democratic control
>>>    - Participation
>>>    - Self-empowerment
>>>    - Improved or new private products and services
>>>    - Innovation
>>>    - Improved efficiency of services
>>>    - Improved effectiveness of services
>>>    - Impact measurement of policies
>>>    - New knowledge from combined data sources and patterns in large
>>>    data volumes
>>>
>>>
>>> -Raoul
>>>
>>> On 26 July 2018 at 13:54, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>
>>>> I have made some rather substantial (proposed) edits to this statement
>>>> now. In response to your comment, I have cited recommendation 10.5 of the
>>>> Accountability and Transparency Review 2, and called for ICANN to provide
>>>> non-commercial stakeholders with the resources required in order to
>>>> interrogate and analyse this data.
>>>>
>>>> The Policy Committee is looking over this comment now (hence my last
>>>> minute edits), but if there are any additional comments/suggestions that
>>>> anyone has, we would still be able to consider them if they are added to
>>>> the document today:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 23 July 2018 9:02 PM, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at YORKU.CA> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> While I fully endorse as much open data access for ICANN as is
>>>> possible, without compromising personal privacy, I am sobered by the
>>>> general view that in Open Government Data most of the benefits go to the
>>>> deep pocketed stakeholders (corporate entities) that have the financial
>>>> resources to mine the data.
>>>>
>>>> Giving civil society access, without it having research resources,
>>>> leaves it dependent on those few academics who will mine the data in the
>>>> public interest, or when it just occasionally catches data outliers that
>>>> raise concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Sam L.,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <
>>>> <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Elsa, hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you and the team for taking the time for drafting the comment. I
>>>>> find that the points raised in the comment are indeed relevant!  From a
>>>>> broader perspective, it is good that ICANN has plans to publish more data -
>>>>> I can see a lot of potential for qualitative and quantitative research here
>>>>> in various fields of social sciences!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
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> --
>
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>
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Elsa Saade
Consultant
Gulf Centre for Human Rights
Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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