Meeting with CEO

[dorothy g]

Dear M. Folly,  Also look at the regional distribution of Board members.

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
wrote:

> Dear Amr,
>
> I am NOT sure about the objective of your question regarding why people
> are asking about issues related to diversity. For the sake of my own
> understanding, I would like to know whether you are attending the meeting
> with CEO alongside Farzaneh.
>
> I would like to elaborate on the issue since I am part of those who
> tackled it. I don’t know if you followed our discussions within this
> mailing list for the last year…. I think the question was raised many times
> and even some public comments pointed it out elegantly (for instance our
> comments on the CCWG-Accountability WS2 draft report, also during the
> diversity questionnaire, fellowship programme, etc. just to name a few).
>
> An official ICANN’s report
> <https://www.afnic.fr/medias/documents/Dossiers_pour_actualites/2016_Icann_Diversity_Data.pdf> (in
> 2016) clearly showed the Org’s figures regarding diversity and many
> recommendations have made to improve those figures. Therefore, it seems legitimate
> to me to take any opportunity to tackle this issue. And as you have a
> concrete exemple regarding visas for meetings, there are many others things
> to tackle (maybe not during a single meeting with the CEO, but critical to
> address by us as noncommercial users.).  Recently we had a public comment
> on an SSAC review and diversity of the membership was one of the issue that
> was addressed by us as NCSG. Certainly, it does not make sense, at this
> stage, to ask such an operational question to a CEO but it worths knowing
> his vision/goals/achievements at a strategic level. Addressing one thing at
> a time will be helpful and will eradicate the issue on a long-term
>
>
> There are already bylaws and GNSO operating provisions that address
> diversity issues. Are those inadequate? If so, then why? How can they be
> improved?
>
>
> If the bylaws alone were sufficient, the ICANN diversity report would have
> shown only positive figures and drawn only positive conclusions, but it was
> not the case. That says it all. Concrete actions at a both strategic and
> ops levels are required and we have the duty to monitor them continuously
> and assess their effectiveness and efficiency.
>
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
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> On 17 Aug 2018, at 14:45, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at ICANNPOLICY.NINJA> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would very much like some elaboration on the diversity concern, so would
> be grateful for any elaborations that could be provided. What specific
> concerns do folks have regarding diversity, and are there any concrete
> solutions any of the many proponents for this topic would like to propose?
>
> There are already bylaws and GNSO operating provisions that address
> diversity issues. Are those inadequate? If so, then why? How can they be
> improved?
>
> The issue of improving the process to secure visas for ICANN meeting
> participants is a concrete example that I can support. Might be a good
> topic to bring up, but I’m trying to understand what the broader concerns
> might be, especially that there seem to be so many who believe that
> improvements to diversity is desirable.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Aug 16, 2018, at 11:08 PM, MAURICIA ABDOL <ladymauriciaa12 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Farazaneh,
>
> I am interested in knowing how ICANN intends ensuring diversity is
> observed throughout the organisation especially at the key decision making
> tables.
>
> I am happy to elaborate if necessary.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Mauricia
>
>
> On 16 Aug 2018 10:36 pm, "Mamadou LO" <alfamamadou at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 Benjamin on broader participation regarding visas and venues.
> Cordially
>
>
>
> Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.
>
>
> -------- Message d'origine --------
> De : Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at GMAIL.COM>
> Date : 16/08/2018 17:27 (GMT+00:00)
> À : NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Objet : Re: Meeting with CEO
>
> Dear Farzenah,
> Awesome that you have another opportunity to interact with ICANN CEO, my
> topics of interest include the ones already expressed by Dororthy G and
> Wisdom  ie broader participation in ICANN and helping improve access to
> ICANN meetings especially when considering venues.
>
> He should shed more light on how far ICANN is willing to go in adopting
> open data .
>
> Regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:07 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> Do you have references for the case law James?
>>
>> Stephanie
>> On 2018-08-15 13:18, James Gannon wrote:
>>
>> I would disagree as would some case law.
>> Having been the subject of near interrogation over the same topic I speak
>> from experience.
>>
>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 19:10, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. There is a strong public interest to tracking expenses of this
>> type. I don't consider the fact that a person has requested/received an
>> exemption to be particularly sensitive, given that there's no need to
>> publish any details about the specifics underlying that exemption (the
>> actual medical information).
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a legitimate concern, but it something that can be managed.
>>> Other organisations which publish similar data (government, grant issuing
>>> agencies) have ways of managing this, which ICANN might be able to learn
>>> from.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 16:41, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The concern I know was raised previously is that it can be determined
>>> who has asked and received a medical exemption from the travel and flight
>>> policy hence may be considered for those people personal information.
>>>
>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 16:19, Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Claire,
>>>
>>> Yes, it is a balancing act, but with the exception of names, the travel
>>> report does not directly contain any personal information. It used to have
>>> the cost of a flight, for instance - but never the city of departure or any
>>> other identifying information. Much like we expect elected representatives
>>> in government to disclose their expenses, I think it is reasonable for
>>> those who are receiving financial support from ICANN to disclose the extent
>>> of this relationship by way of documents like the travel report.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 15:03, Claire Craig <claireccraig at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting Ayden. We really have to insist on balancing transparency
>>> and privacy otherwise, before we know it everything could be justified and
>>> private hence outside of the purview of the community.
>>> CCC
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 17:55, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Farzi,
>>>>
>>>> While we would certainly like to see ICANN act in a more privacy-minded
>>>> fashion, we would also like to see ICANN remain appropriately transparent
>>>> and accountable.
>>>>
>>>> It might be worth asking to see the Privacy Impact Assessment (if any)
>>>> that ICANN org conducted prior to redacting the travel reports of all
>>>> meaningful data. They are now useless, as the financial information has
>>>> been redacted, with ICANN org attributing this change to “privacy laws.”
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Aug 2018, at 23:49, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear members
>>>>
>>>> I will have a meeting with the CEO on Friday the 17th. The issues that
>>>> I have in mind to discuss with him are:
>>>>
>>>> Unified  Access Model and NCSG perspective. (we had some preliminary
>>>> discussions on the list about it, hopefully, we will have some common
>>>> positions which I can relay on Friday.)
>>>>
>>>> Cross Community Sessions and dominance of the organizer
>>>>
>>>> The need to have a more privacy-minded ICANN org and community
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is quite a full agenda and he would want to also talk about
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> Please comment on the current issues by tomorrow and let me know if you
>>>> have any other topic you would like to be discussed.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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