ICANN has appointed a Chief Data Protection Officer

[Ade Bo]

I totally agree Kris, i mean i understand the issue of privacy, i am just not sure who are we trying to protect so hard and by saying so who is left out.
I also don’t agree with just giving out information to anyone like it happens for the moment but the GDPR is going to be a great challenge for most of the greatest issues we deal with online at the moment. 
Phishing, child abuse and terrorism - if you need a warrant for each of this by the time it is obtain and allow you to get the info from the ISP  it might be all to late.
We need to understand very well who we are looking to protect here and when i say that read between the lines for all that the institutions also like to implement. 
Institutions are there to help in general but more to often the ones making policy live in bubble that are out of others reality.
We do need a different system but it has to be well thought and all parties included in saying their concerns and those should be taken in consideration.

One of my greatest concerns here is child safety, it seem to often that no one speaks loud enough for them and they are far to often forgotten in the discussion.
The GDPR will make the issue greater than it is. The world of crime we have today is little to what it will be. Dark net will become a side problem for all of us.

With kind regards

Adela Bodea

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination”
                               Albert Einstein 

> On 31 Jul 2017, at 14:42, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com> wrote:
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> To the point….but i guess since the CDPO has been appointed he would need to look and be able to advise on public view of data in the whois for example. I am sure we need the correct and validated details of anyone who registers to have them on Data base but some information coming from special request like authorities needs a different access. Based on who and what the subject of the issue comes to be.
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> You have valid points which everyone must come to a middle ground to succeed Privacy laws and certainly GDPR is going to affect many dealings with EU be it online or cloud.The challenges are gona need to happen not only within the groups but affects ICANN directly. 
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> But looks like stephanie has provided some more background. The bigger question is that whatever happens we all need to tie down to GDPR else no business at all and no safe harbor. 
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> My acid test here is to see what the new Chief brings in. He should be able to look at everything and have guidelines for all groups and for ICANN as well. 
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> Kris
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>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Ade Bo <adebodea at GMAIL.COM <mailto:adebodea at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
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>> Hello everyone, 
>> 
>> Has anyone thought how are these changes going to influence cybercrime? 
>> How much harder is it going to be to find information necessary to prosecute someone?
>> We are thinking of protecting privacy but isn’t there nothing contradicting that ?
>> I believe these matter should be looked at from all the stakeholders perspective.
>> 
>> With kind regards
>> 
>> Adela Bodea
>> 
>> "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination”
>>                                Albert Einstein 
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>>> On 31 Jul 2017, at 14:06, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com <mailto:mike.oghia at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> I agree too Stephanie, excellent points David. 
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>>> Would anyone support us as the NCSG requesting a formal response to David's points (and a formal explanation as to the motivation behind Mr. Halloran's appointment)?
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>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
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>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>> I totally agree David, and as someone who last worked in risk management, if I were the CEO looking at this mess right now I would be asking hard questions of the people who have advised the Board to just ignore the data protection commissioners for the past 17 years.  First position paper on WHOIS being illegal was in 2000.  Makes a heck of an easy case to take to Court....
>>> 
>>> Stephanie Perrin
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>>> On 2017-07-31 03:33, David Cake wrote:
>>>> I admit I find this development disappointing.
>>>> While it is a sign (along with the GDPR task force established at the last meeting) that ICANN has finally understood the significance of its downplaying and avoidance of the GDPR and other international data protection law over the last few years, it is disappointing that:
>>>>  a) ICANN is still not taking the issue that seriously, as it is in addition to existing Deputy General Counsel duties, so represents a limited allocation of resources to the issue; 
>>>> b) is a missed opportunity to bring additional experience and expertise into the organisation, expertise ICANN desperately needs (and is currently relying on its volunteers to provide);
>>>> c) is continuing to the have the issue managed by the same team whose denial and obstinate avoidance of the issue has led to the organisation now facing a crisis;
>>>> d) continues a pattern of having ICANN legal be put in charge of areas where it is largely responsible for continued organisation dysfunction, so effectively being given the opportunity to manage criticism but not given any strong inventive to admit to past mistakes. . 
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 3:32 am, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
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>>>>> ICANN has now appointed someone <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/introducing-icann-s-chief-data-protection-officer-cdpo> to the role of "Chief Data Protection Officer". Daniel Halloran, who in his bio is described as "one of ICANN's longest-serving employees" and reports directly to John Jeffrey, does not list his experience in establishing privacy frameworks nor their associated compliance structures in his bio. That said, I wish him all the best in this new role and look forward to seeing how ICANN's understanding of data protection law evolves over the coming months now that this position has been created...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline 
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>>> 
>>> 
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