[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Judith Hellerstein judith at jhellerstein.com
Tue May 30 15:47:54 EEST 2023


HiJulf,
They extended the date for comments by a week so we still have time and I am still getting comments from people.  Will close it shortly

Judith 

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> On May 30, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
> 
> Tomslin, did you submit our comments?
> 
>    Julf
> 
> 
>> On 28/05/2023 15:29, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>> Hi Judith,
>> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please reconcile them?
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>    HI Juan,
>>    I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>>    something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the
>>    Public Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address
>>    this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>    That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public
>>    comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>>    has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>    Best,
>>    Judith
>>    _________________________________________________________________________
>>    Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
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>>>    On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Dear all,
>>> 
>>>    I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in
>>>    the same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as
>>>    this comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>> 
>>>    Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>>    Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>>    NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>>    Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>>    Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>>    Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>> 
>>>    /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>>    Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>>    Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>    escribió:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Dear PC,
>>> 
>>>    Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that
>>>    closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein
>>>    and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the
>>>    draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>> 
>>>    Warmly,
>>>    Tomslin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>    From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com
>>>    <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>>>    Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>>    Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>>    To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>>
>>>    Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>, Raoul
>>>    Plommer <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>, Tomslin
>>>    Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>,
>>>    Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Hi Caleb,
>>> 
>>>    Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>>    various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know
>>>    who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
>>>    them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>> 
>>>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>> 
>>>    Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>>    rights.  What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>>    deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>>    approved and ratified one later
>>> 
>>>    I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>> 
>>>    Best,
>>> 
>>>    Judith
>>> 
>>>    _________________________________________________________________________
>>>    Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>    Hellerstein & Associates
>>>    3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>    Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>    Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>>>    Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>> 
>>>    On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>>    Hi Judith,
>>>> 
>>>>    Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>> 
>>>>    Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>>    doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>> 
>>>>    One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write
>>>>    ICANN for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to
>>>>    provide feedback and ratify public comments that  represents the
>>>>    NCSG's views.
>>>> 
>>>>    Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>>    <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>>    I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>>    the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>> 
>>>>    Caleb
>>>> 
>>>>    On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>>    <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        HI All,
>>>> 
>>>>        Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>>        that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>>        Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to
>>>>        all constituencies.  I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>>        response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>>        be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>>>        questions they are asking us to comment upon.  Public
>>>>        Comments are due May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow
>>>>        NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also suggested he was
>>>>        interested in helping draft.
>>>> 
>>>>        1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>>        Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>>        statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>> 
>>>>        2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>>        proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>>        Transition Clause
>>>> 
>>>>            Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>>        instead of one year.
>>>>            Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to
>>>>        be able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>>            Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>>        across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>>        memory of the NomCom.
>>>> 
>>>>         3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>> 
>>>>        4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>>        allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>>        non-voting slot
>>>> 
>>>>        Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only
>>>>        contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>> 
>>>>        Best,
>>>> 
>>>>        Judith Hellerstein
>>>> 
>>>>        _________________________________________________________________________
>>>>        Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>>        Hellerstein & Associates
>>>>        3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>>        Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>>        Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>>        E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com  <mailto:Judith at jhellerstein.com>    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>>>        Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>>        Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>> 
>>>>        On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>>        I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>>        months ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>>            Julf
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>        On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>>        Hi Julf,
>>>>>>        Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>>        was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>>        months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas.  Sorry but
>>>>>>        I had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago.  The
>>>>>>        suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>>        the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>>        decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>>        within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was
>>>>>>        why the board/ review committee took back part of the
>>>>>>        review. .  ALAC was for it and wanted to see this
>>>>>>        rebalancing but the review committee and Board got too much
>>>>>>        flack from people within the GNSO so they had to pull even
>>>>>>        this simple adjustment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>>        letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>>        the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>>        reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and
>>>>>>        the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>>        NomCom Review.   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass
>>>>>>        you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC.
>>>>>>        The only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>>        unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise,
>>>>>>        What I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        Best,
>>>>>>        Judith
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>        judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>>>        Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>            --     *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>>            Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>        <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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