[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
Johan Helsingius
julf at Julf.com
Tue May 30 15:49:51 EEST 2023
Thanks Judith - I guess Tomslin will still have to be the one to
submit.
Julf
On 30/05/2023 14:47, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
> HiJulf,
> They extended the date for comments by a week so we still have time and
> I am still getting comments from people. Will close it shortly
>
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPad
> judith at jhellerstein.com
> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>
>> On May 30, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tomslin, did you submit our comments?
>>
>> Julf
>>
>>
>> On 28/05/2023 15:29, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>> Hi Judith,
>>> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
>>> reconcile them?
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein
>>> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>> HI Juan,
>>> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>>> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the
>>> Public Comment we could not address it here. We have to address
>>> this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement. In a public
>>> comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>>> has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>> Best,
>>> Judith
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
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>>> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in
>>>> the same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as
>>>> this comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>>> Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>>>
>>>> /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>>> Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear PC,
>>>>
>>>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that
>>>> closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein
>>>> and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the
>>>> draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Tomslin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com
>>>> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>>
>>>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>, Raoul
>>>> Plommer <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>, Tomslin
>>>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>,
>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Caleb,
>>>>
>>>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>>> various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment. I do not know
>>>> who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
>>>> them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>
>>>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>>> rights. What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>>> deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>>> approved and ratified one later
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Judith
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>
>>>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>>> Hi Judith,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>>> doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write
>>>>> ICANN for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to
>>>>> provide feedback and ratify public comments that represents the
>>>>> NCSG's views.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>>> the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caleb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>>> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> HI All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>>> that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>>> Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to
>>>>> all constituencies. I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>>> response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>>> be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>>>> questions they are asking us to comment upon. Public
>>>>> Comments are due May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow
>>>>> NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also suggested he was
>>>>> interested in helping draft.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>>> Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>>> statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>>> proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>>> Transition Clause
>>>>>
>>>>> Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>>> instead of one year.
>>>>> Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to
>>>>> be able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>>> Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>>> across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>>> memory of the NomCom.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>>> allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>>> non-voting slot
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes. Only
>>>>> contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>>> E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com
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>>>>> <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
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>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>>> months ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Julf,
>>>>>>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>>> was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>>> months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas. Sorry but
>>>>>>> I had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago. The
>>>>>>> suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>>> the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>>> decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>>> within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was
>>>>>>> why the board/ review committee took back part of the
>>>>>>> review. . ALAC was for it and wanted to see this
>>>>>>> rebalancing but the review committee and Board got too much
>>>>>>> flack from people within the GNSO so they had to pull even
>>>>>>> this simple adjustment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>>> letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>>> the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>>> reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and
>>>>>>> the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>>> NomCom Review. Has one been created. If not, I can pass
>>>>>>> you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC.
>>>>>>> The only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>>> unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise,
>>>>>>> What I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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