[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Johan Helsingius julf at Julf.com
Tue May 30 15:38:58 EEST 2023


Tomslin, did you submit our comments?

	Julf


On 28/05/2023 15:29, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> Hi Judith,
> 
> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please 
> reconcile them?
> 
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein 
> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
> 
>     HI Juan,
> 
>     I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>     something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the
>     Public Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address
>     this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
> 
>     That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public
>     comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>     has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     Judith
> 
>     _________________________________________________________________________
>     Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>     Hellerstein & Associates
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> 
>     On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in
>>     the same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as
>>     this comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>
>>     *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>     Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>     NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>     Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>     Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>     Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>
>>     /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>     Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>     Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>     escribió:
>>
>>
>>     Dear PC,
>>
>>     Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that
>>     closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein
>>     and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the
>>     draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>
>>     Warmly,
>>     Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>     From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com
>>     <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>     Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>     To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>>
>>     Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>, Raoul
>>     Plommer <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>, Tomslin
>>     Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>,
>>     Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>>     Hi Caleb,
>>
>>     Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>     various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know
>>     who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
>>     them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>>     Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>     rights.  What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>     deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>     approved and ratified one later
>>
>>     I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Judith
>>
>>     _________________________________________________________________________
>>     Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>     Hellerstein & Associates
>>     3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>     Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>     Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>     E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com  <mailto:Judith at jhellerstein.com>    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>     Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>     Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>
>>     On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>     Hi Judith,
>>>
>>>     Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>
>>>     Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>     doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>
>>>     One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write
>>>     ICANN for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to
>>>     provide feedback and ratify public comments that  represents the
>>>     NCSG's views.
>>>
>>>     Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>     I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>     the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>
>>>     Caleb
>>>
>>>     On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>     <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         HI All,
>>>
>>>         Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>         that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>         Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to
>>>         all constituencies.  I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>         response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>         be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>>         questions they are asking us to comment upon.  Public
>>>         Comments are due May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow
>>>         NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also suggested he was
>>>         interested in helping draft.
>>>
>>>         1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>         Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>         statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>
>>>         2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>         proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>         Transition Clause
>>>
>>>             Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>         instead of one year.
>>>             Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to
>>>         be able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>             Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>         across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>         memory of the NomCom.
>>>
>>>          3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>
>>>         4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>         allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>         non-voting slot
>>>
>>>         Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only
>>>         contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>
>>>         Best,
>>>
>>>         Judith Hellerstein
>>>
>>>         _________________________________________________________________________
>>>         Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>         Hellerstein & Associates
>>>         3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>         Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>         Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>         E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com  <mailto:Judith at jhellerstein.com>    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>>         Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>         Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>
>>>         On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>         I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>         months ago.
>>>>
>>>>             Julf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>         Hi Julf,
>>>>>         Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>         was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>         months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas.  Sorry but
>>>>>         I had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago.  The
>>>>>         suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>         the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>         decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>         within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was
>>>>>         why the board/ review committee took back part of the
>>>>>         review. .  ALAC was for it and wanted to see this
>>>>>         rebalancing but the review committee and Board got too much
>>>>>         flack from people within the GNSO so they had to pull even
>>>>>         this simple adjustment.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>         letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>         the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>         reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and
>>>>>         the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>         NomCom Review.   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass
>>>>>         you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC.
>>>>>         The only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>         unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise,
>>>>>         What I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>         Judith
>>>>>
>>>>>         Sent from my iPad
>>>>>         judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>>         Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             --     *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>             Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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