[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Board seat 14 mediation - participants?

Wed May 10 11:56:06 EEST 2023

To do that (have a neutral team undertake an interview task), we will first
need an mutually agreed criteria by both SGs which we'll give to such a
neutral team to use. We don't have any such bi-SG criteria.

Tomslin

On Wed, 10 May 2023, 15:55 Akinremi Peter Taiwo, <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I was there during the interview. That was why I said our response should
> be the previous stance. We didn't find their candidate suitable.
>
> Since CSG has called for mediation and refused to accommodate other names
> for the board seat, so a strategy would be suggesting a neutral committee
> to interview the incumbent and their candidate. And that will also help
> guide the notion that the incumbent did not perform well.
>
> Regards.
>
> On Wed, 10 May 2023, 02:16 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Akinremi. Just to clarify something: we have agreed to and
>> interviewed their suggestion/candidate for the board seat.
>>
>> At the time, Julf provided CSG leadership with a clear assessment from
>> the ones of us who happened to be at the interview explaining how we
>> thought the candidate did not fulfill the requirements. The issue is that
>> we have reached a deadlock bc CSG refuses to present a new name, interview
>> the other candidate suggested by us and now they have suggested the
>> mediation.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> schrieb am Di. 9. Mai 2023
>> um 17:54:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> It is obvious that the friend from the other house already have a
>>> position. We need to agree on a position before entering the meeting.
>>>
>>> Comparing the incumbent with someone not yet ripe for the board is sort
>>> of amazing to me. It would be good to hear from them how they rate their
>>> preferred candidate and with what yardstick.
>>>
>>> Our position should be the previous stance.
>>>
>>>  However, it would be good to interview the incumbent and other to
>>> determine who should be selected.
>>>
>>> Nomcom uses the same method. Let there be a neutral committee setup from
>>> from both house with criteria defined.
>>>
>>> My 2cent.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2023, 8:30 pm David Morar, <davidcristianmorar at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If Bruna and Tomslin could do it, that would be great! For the next
>>>> meeting, I think we should figure out a way to have NCSG, NCUC and NPOC
>>>> represented, so that we have good balance, or if folks think that Julf,
>>>> Bruna and Tomslin works, we can leave it at that!
>>>>
>>>> *David Morar, PhD*
>>>> @morar <https://twitter.com/morar> | davidmorar.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can definitely help on this, Julf. And would suggest we maybe bring
>>>>> Tomslin in as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <
>>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori wants to bring Mason and  Phillipe to our mediation set-up
>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>> Do we want to pick co-negotiators at short notice, or are you OK with
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> facing them alone? Going forward it would make sense to have one
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> from each constituency (with NCSG counting as one).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Are you invited other NCSG'ers tomorrow?
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 17:59:45 +0200
>>>>>> From: Johan Helsingius <julf.helsingius at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org>
>>>>>> CC: Melissa Allgood <melissa.allgood at icann.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lori,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8000 people on site is indeed an impressively big meeting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know what a hassle it is to prepare for a trip like that,
>>>>>> and i appreciate you taking the time to get the moderation
>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was assuming it would be just you, me and Melissa at this point,
>>>>>> so I haven't invited anyone else. It is a bit of a short notice
>>>>>> to get the right people to join, so I might keep it at just me
>>>>>> from our side, but I have no issue with Phillipe and Mason joining
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/05/2023 13:49, Lori Schulman wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi Julf,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hope you are well.  I am getting ready to fly off to INTA’s Annual
>>>>>> > Meeting in Singapore.  We expect 8,000 on site.  It’s been a
>>>>>> whirlwind.
>>>>>> > Meanwhile, I am wondering if you are inviting other members of your
>>>>>> > ExCom to the call tomorrow? I had originally thought that it might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> > best if you and I met alone with Melissa so we can ask questions
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> > process and parameters and set the framework for moving forward.
>>>>>> > However, given that I will be out of pocket until May 30, I am
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> > of inviting whoever can make it from the CSG Excomm.  I did not
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> > surprise you with more participants if you had not contemplated the
>>>>>> > same.  Please let me know.  I was thinking of at least asking Mason
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > Phillipe.  LMK.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > <http://www.inta.org/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Lori Schulman
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Senior Director, Internet Policy
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
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>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>
>>>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>>
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>>
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>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>
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