[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Board seat 14 mediation - participants?

Wed May 10 12:00:16 EEST 2023

Something to push for if deadlock persist.

Regards.

On Wed, 10 May 2023, 9:56 am Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> To do that (have a neutral team undertake an interview task), we will
> first need an mutually agreed criteria by both SGs which we'll give to such
> a neutral team to use. We don't have any such bi-SG criteria.
>
> Tomslin
>
> On Wed, 10 May 2023, 15:55 Akinremi Peter Taiwo, <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Bruna.
>>
>> I was there during the interview. That was why I said our response should
>> be the previous stance. We didn't find their candidate suitable.
>>
>> Since CSG has called for mediation and refused to accommodate other names
>> for the board seat, so a strategy would be suggesting a neutral committee
>> to interview the incumbent and their candidate. And that will also help
>> guide the notion that the incumbent did not perform well.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> On Wed, 10 May 2023, 02:16 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Akinremi. Just to clarify something: we have agreed to and
>>> interviewed their suggestion/candidate for the board seat.
>>>
>>> At the time, Julf provided CSG leadership with a clear assessment from
>>> the ones of us who happened to be at the interview explaining how we
>>> thought the candidate did not fulfill the requirements. The issue is that
>>> we have reached a deadlock bc CSG refuses to present a new name, interview
>>> the other candidate suggested by us and now they have suggested the
>>> mediation.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Bruna
>>>
>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> schrieb am Di. 9. Mai 2023
>>> um 17:54:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> It is obvious that the friend from the other house already have a
>>>> position. We need to agree on a position before entering the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Comparing the incumbent with someone not yet ripe for the board is sort
>>>> of amazing to me. It would be good to hear from them how they rate their
>>>> preferred candidate and with what yardstick.
>>>>
>>>> Our position should be the previous stance.
>>>>
>>>>  However, it would be good to interview the incumbent and other to
>>>> determine who should be selected.
>>>>
>>>> Nomcom uses the same method. Let there be a neutral committee setup
>>>> from from both house with criteria defined.
>>>>
>>>> My 2cent.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2023, 8:30 pm David Morar, <davidcristianmorar at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If Bruna and Tomslin could do it, that would be great! For the next
>>>>> meeting, I think we should figure out a way to have NCSG, NCUC and NPOC
>>>>> represented, so that we have good balance, or if folks think that Julf,
>>>>> Bruna and Tomslin works, we can leave it at that!
>>>>>
>>>>> *David Morar, PhD*
>>>>> @morar <https://twitter.com/morar> | davidmorar.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC <
>>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can definitely help on this, Julf. And would suggest we maybe bring
>>>>>> Tomslin in as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <
>>>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lori wants to bring Mason and  Phillipe to our mediation set-up
>>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>> Do we want to pick co-negotiators at short notice, or are you OK
>>>>>>> with me
>>>>>>> facing them alone? Going forward it would make sense to have one
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> from each constituency (with NCSG counting as one).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Are you invited other NCSG'ers tomorrow?
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 17:59:45 +0200
>>>>>>> From: Johan Helsingius <julf.helsingius at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org>
>>>>>>> CC: Melissa Allgood <melissa.allgood at icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Lori,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8000 people on site is indeed an impressively big meeting!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know what a hassle it is to prepare for a trip like that,
>>>>>>> and i appreciate you taking the time to get the moderation
>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was assuming it would be just you, me and Melissa at this point,
>>>>>>> so I haven't invited anyone else. It is a bit of a short notice
>>>>>>> to get the right people to join, so I might keep it at just me
>>>>>>> from our side, but I have no issue with Phillipe and Mason joining
>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/05/2023 13:49, Lori Schulman wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi Julf,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hope you are well.  I am getting ready to fly off to INTA’s Annual
>>>>>>> > Meeting in Singapore.  We expect 8,000 on site.  It’s been a
>>>>>>> whirlwind.
>>>>>>> > Meanwhile, I am wondering if you are inviting other members of
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> > ExCom to the call tomorrow? I had originally thought that it might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> > best if you and I met alone with Melissa so we can ask questions
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> > process and parameters and set the framework for moving forward.
>>>>>>> > However, given that I will be out of pocket until May 30, I am
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> > of inviting whoever can make it from the CSG Excomm.  I did not
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> > surprise you with more participants if you had not contemplated
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > same.  Please let me know.  I was thinking of at least asking
>>>>>>> Mason and
>>>>>>> > Phillipe.  LMK.
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>>>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>>>
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>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>
>>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
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