[NCSG-SubPro] NCSG Response to the proposed GAC-GNSO Consultation on Closed Generics

Kathy Kleiman kathy at kathykleiman.com
Sun Apr 3 20:00:37 EEST 2022


Hi Manju,

Your material is excellent. I've tried to be helpful in adding more 
references from the GAC Beijing Advice in 2013, and some of the outreach 
of the more recent outreach of SubPro WG members to the GAC during the PDP.

Also some sources/references/letters/CircleID at bottom now.

What else can we do to help you?

Best, Kathy

On 3/31/2022 9:32 PM, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
>
> The Council has formed a small team and charged it with the task of 
> coming up with suggestions for the next step.
> I guess you can think of this small team as having the responsibility 
> of requesting input from their respective groups?
>
> The members of the small team are Paul McGrady, Kurt Pritz, Jeff 
> Neuman, Justine Chew, and me.
>
> So you can see how we really have to hold our fort on this one, and 
> I'm counting on the statement we agreed to put together as a 
> cheat sheet so I deliver our points loud and clear.
>
> The small team is scheduled to meet next week. I'll listen to our 
> policy call again to note down our points. In the meantime, I'd really 
> appreciate more insights from those of you who have extensive 
> knowledge of closed generics and GAC/GNSO dialogue on Red Cross.
>
> Best,
> Manju
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 20:39 Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Tomslin,
>
>     I thought the Council was going to go through a period of
>     requesting some input. Has that changed?
>
>     Best, Kathy
>
>     On 3/30/2022 9:08 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>     Hi team,
>>
>>     I just wanted to call your attention to this response we promised
>>     to put together on the board proposed dialogue between GAC and
>>     Council on closed generics. The Council small team is about to be
>>     activated to start deliberations and I believe @陳曼茹 Manju Chen
>>     <mailto:manju at nii.org.tw> who is representing us there hopes to
>>     rely on the response we pen down to guide her contribution to
>>     that team.
>>
>>     In this regard, can I request that we find some time to please
>>     put our ideas down on the Google
>>     formhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>     Looking forward to your help with this. In the meantime, i'll
>>     review my meeting notes and put down some feedback we got during
>>     our policy call on the document.
>>
>>     Warmly,
>>     Tomslin
>>
>>     On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, 22:25 Tomslin Samme-Nlar,
>>     <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi all,
>>
>>         As a follow-up to my previous email regarding the board's
>>         proposed facilitated dialogue between GAC and GNSO council, I
>>         have created this Google doc [
>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing
>>         ] to capture our response to this proposal in the form of a
>>         letter to the council small team on Closed Generics.
>>
>>         Inputs to the document are welcomed and for your convenience,
>>         attached again is the letter from the board and the
>>         accompanying framing paper.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Tomslin
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 08:12, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
>>         <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Dear everyone,
>>
>>             Here is the framing paper on the board's proposed
>>             dialogue between GNSO Council and the GAC on Closed
>>             Generics that was promised.
>>
>>             Comments are welcomed. I will also be sending a separate
>>             email with a link to the Google doc where we intend to
>>             draft a letter as a response to this.
>>
>>             Regards,
>>             Tomslin
>>
>>
>>             ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>             From: *Wendy Profit via Gnso-chairs* <gnso-chairs at icann.org>
>>             Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 04:33
>>             Subject: [gnso-chairs] [CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman
>>             to Manal Ismail and Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO
>>             Consultation on Closed Generics
>>             To: manal.ismail at board.icann.org
>>             <manal.ismail at board.icann.org>, Manal Ismail
>>             <manal at tra.gov.eg>, philippe.fouquart at orange.com
>>             <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>, gnso-chairs at icann.org
>>             <gnso-chairs at icann.org>
>>             Cc: Secretary <secretary at icann.org>, Correspondence
>>             <Correspondence at icann.org>, Board Ops Team
>>             <board-ops-team at icann.org>, gnso-secs at icann.org
>>             <gnso-secs at icann.org>, GACSTAFF <gac-staff at icann.org>,
>>             Maarten Botterman <maarten.botterman at board.icann.org>
>>
>>
>>             Dear Manal and Philippe,
>>
>>             Pursuant to the letter sent recently (6 March 2022,
>>             attached for reference), we are now forwarding the
>>             associated framework paper entitled “Board-Facilitated
>>             Process for a GAC - GNSO Council Dialogue on Closed
>>             Generics”, also attached.
>>
>>             **
>>
>>             Thank you and best regards,
>>
>>             Wendy Profit
>>
>>             ICANN
>>
>>             Board Operations Senior Manager
>>
>>             12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
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>>
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>>
>>
>>             Los Angeles, CA 90094
>>             <https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>>             *From: *Wendy Profit <wendy.profit at icann.org>
>>             *Date: *Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:58 PM
>>             *To: *"manal.ismail at board.icann.org"
>>             <manal.ismail at board.icann.org>, "manal at tra.gov.eg"
>>             <manal at tra.gov.eg>, "philippe.fouquart at orange.com"
>>             <philippe.fouquart at orange.com>
>>             *Cc: *Maarten Botterman
>>             <maarten.botterman at board.icann.org>,
>>             "gnso-chairs at icann.org" <gnso-chairs at icann.org>, GACSTAFF
>>             <gac-staff at icann.org>, "gnso-secs at icann.org"
>>             <gnso-secs at icann.org>, ICANN Board Ops
>>             <board-ops-team at icann.org>, Correspondence
>>             <Correspondence at icann.org>, Secretary <secretary at icann.org>
>>             *Subject: *[CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Manal
>>             Ismail and Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO Consultation on
>>             Closed Generics
>>
>>             Dear Manal and Philippe,
>>
>>             Please find the attached letter from ICANN Chair Maarten
>>             Botterman regarding a proposed formal consultation
>>             between the GAC and GNSO Council on how to handle the
>>             subject of closed generics in gTLD applications.
>>
>>             Thank you and best regards,
>>
>>             Wendy Profit
>>
>>             ICANN
>>
>>             Board Operations Senior Manager
>>
>>             12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>>             <https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
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>>
>>
>>             Los Angeles, CA 90094
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