[NCSG-PC] Comments on the CCOICI survey

[Stephanie E Perrin]

thanks Julf!

Steph

On 2024-03-12 6:02 a.m., Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC wrote:
> Submitted last night. Thank you Stephanie and Manju!
>
>     Julf
>
> On 11/03/2024 15:15, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>> Thank you, Stephanie, for drafting the response!
>>
>> If no one have raised other opinions until 11 March 23:00UTC, can 
>> Julf please submit the response on behalf of NCSG?
>>
>>
>> Thank you so much!!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Manju
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 19:03 Stephanie E Perrin 
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>     __
>>
>>     Profuse apologies folks, did not realize I had restricted access.
>>     SHould now be open to anyone with the link, also attached as a word
>>     doc just in case.  Copying Caleb and Juan and Ben in case they have
>>     comments.  Deadline is tonight I think?  If anyone has any great
>>     ideas on how we could have achieved consensus, I am all ears, but I
>>     could not think of anything except to keep trying.  I do not
>>     recommend giving small teams or task forces the power to deprive
>>     Council of voting something down.  And I could not see how we could
>>     not have separated out the work that we did reach agreement on, if
>>     we had had more notice of what the CPs were planning.
>>
>>     cheers Stephanie
>>
>>     On 2024-03-10 10:24 p.m., 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>>>     Hi Spephanie,
>>>
>>>     I can't assess the google doc, guess it'd be the same for others 
>>> too.
>>>     Maybe if you could simply circulate the response in word document
>>>     and we can suggest edits (if any) in this mailing thread.
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>     Manju
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 3:33 AM Stephanie E Perrin
>>>     <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca
>>>     <mailto:stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         I hope you are all happily home again after a safe and
>>>         relaxing trip,
>>>         luggage in tow.  If not, my sympathies.
>>>
>>>         Here is a google doc with my suggested comments on the survey.
>>>         Frankly,
>>>         while we are not happy with the outcome of the CCOICI, I
>>>         cannot see any
>>>         point in trying out a different structure.  Maybe we can fix
>>>         the one we
>>>         have.  Maybe we should have brought in ethics and COI experts
>>>         to help
>>>         the task force.  We cannot consider changing the voting
>>>         procedure at
>>>         Council, we depend on the ability to object ourselves.
>>>         However, we need
>>>         to not repeat what happened, and we need to get back at fixing
>>>         the SOIs.
>>>
>>>         Comments welcome, sorry for the delay but I had to go over the
>>>         meetings
>>>         and the root documents.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing> 
>>>
>>>
>>>         cheers Steph Perrin
>>>
>>>         PS I am hopeless with google documents, hate them, so I wont
>>>         be offended
>>>         if you tell me I set it up all wrong.  Hopefully you can make
>>>         suggestions
>>>
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