[NCSG-PC] Comments on the CCOICI survey

[Johan Helsingius]

Submitted last night. Thank you Stephanie and Manju!
	
	Julf

On 11/03/2024 15:15, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
> Thank you, Stephanie, for drafting the response!
> 
> If no one have raised other opinions until 11 March 23:00UTC, can Julf 
> please submit the response on behalf of NCSG?
> 
> 
> Thank you so much!!
> 
> 
> Best,
> Manju
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 19:03 Stephanie E Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
> 
>     __
> 
>     Profuse apologies folks, did not realize I had restricted access.
>     SHould now be open to anyone with the link, also attached as a word
>     doc just in case.  Copying Caleb and Juan and Ben in case they have
>     comments.  Deadline is tonight I think?  If anyone has any great
>     ideas on how we could have achieved consensus, I am all ears, but I
>     could not think of anything except to keep trying.  I do not
>     recommend giving small teams or task forces the power to deprive
>     Council of voting something down.  And I could not see how we could
>     not have separated out the work that we did reach agreement on, if
>     we had had more notice of what the CPs were planning.
> 
>     cheers Stephanie
> 
>     On 2024-03-10 10:24 p.m., 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>>     Hi Spephanie,
>>
>>     I can't assess the google doc, guess it'd be the same for others too.
>>     Maybe if you could simply circulate the response in word document
>>     and we can suggest edits (if any) in this mailing thread.
>>
>>     Best,
>>     Manju
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 3:33 AM Stephanie E Perrin
>>     <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca
>>     <mailto:stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>         I hope you are all happily home again after a safe and
>>         relaxing trip,
>>         luggage in tow.  If not, my sympathies.
>>
>>         Here is a google doc with my suggested comments on the survey.
>>         Frankly,
>>         while we are not happy with the outcome of the CCOICI, I
>>         cannot see any
>>         point in trying out a different structure.  Maybe we can fix
>>         the one we
>>         have.  Maybe we should have brought in ethics and COI experts
>>         to help
>>         the task force.  We cannot consider changing the voting
>>         procedure at
>>         Council, we depend on the ability to object ourselves.
>>         However, we need
>>         to not repeat what happened, and we need to get back at fixing
>>         the SOIs.
>>
>>         Comments welcome, sorry for the delay but I had to go over the
>>         meetings
>>         and the root documents.
>>
>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>>         cheers Steph Perrin
>>
>>         PS I am hopeless with google documents, hate them, so I wont
>>         be offended
>>         if you tell me I set it up all wrong.  Hopefully you can make
>>         suggestions
>>
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