[NCSG-PC] Fwd: HRIA and DNS Abuse: A table-top exercise

farzaneh badii farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Sat Jul 20 16:35:30 EEST 2024


Thanks

Yes we can do that in a serial manner. Since no one else has replied I am
going to contact the organizations mentioned below and Ephraim and take it
from there.

Best regards

Farzaneh


On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 3:17 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Farzi,
>
> I was wondering, is it possible to do the options you've provided in
> serial manner, that is perhaps start with Option #2, depending on the
> outcome go with option#1 OR do Options 2 & 1 together (if time doesn't
> permit) then go with Option #3 while #2 or/and #1 are in progress?
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 01:58, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC <
> ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> For some reason this seems to not have made it to the PC list.
>>
>>         Julf
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> From: *farzaneh badii* <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 2:17 PM
>> Subject: HRIA and DNS Abuse: A table-top exercise
>> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
>>
>>
>> Hello PC
>>
>> As NCSG we did a presentation during the CPH DNS abuse outreach in
>> Kigali about HRIA. Then the CPH asked us to come up with the next steps.
>> Which we pitched (I raised it on the general mailing list) doing a
>> table-top exercise, get people (including ALAC) involved with
>> designing it.
>>
>> I suggested that CPH hires a professional HRIA expert that we can work
>> with. But it seems like that is not the route CPH wants to take. They
>> want NCSG to lead this and they will participate. We have a few ways to
>> move this forward:
>> 1) pool our resources together, ask Ephraim and Global Partners Digital,
>> Paradigm initiative and Article 19, to get together (I will allocate
>> some of Digital Medusa’s resources as well) and design this exercise pro
>> bono. But we have to come up with expectations and desires about what we
>> want to see coming out of this. And let other advisory committees know
>> too.
>> 2) tell CPH that we expect more investment (not just monetary but also
>> involvement and following through the process) from them and they should
>> tell us how they plan to consider “the table-top exercise outcomes” and
>> the “HRIA research papers” we write as a result of these exercises when
>> they are mitigating abuse.
>> 3) Ask ICANN to provide support for the next iterations of HRIA and DNS
>> abuse mitigation.
>>
>> Let me know your thoughts. We might want to draft some proposal or how
>> the table top exercise will potentially look like by the beginning of
>> August.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
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